Yeah, heavy handed policing at times is apparent. But you can't rail against that while being in the US without confronting the blatantly obvious problems with it we also have. I would argue worse since it's been happening for far longer and for way more people.
Also, when someone is debunking false accusations of genocide and you fly in with "OK but the policing is a bit heavy handed"... IDK, maybe not the right time for that? I actually agree that the policing does seem heavy-handed, it's just not at all relevant in a discussion of "genocide".
Not saying that's what happened here, but it does sometimes happen.
Oh, I completely agree. Genocide and policing are world's apart. If it came off like I was trying to say something like "but but they're still bad" that wasn't my intent.
I was just going along with the whole shenanigans/discrimination part. What I meant was more that there's a reason media/ the state department has to escalate what is happening into something wildly worse than it is because the reality of the situation is rather mundane compared to the rest of the world and even our own country. And that it's especially rich for the US to condemn anyone for that when our current system has been going on for centuries, has effected way more people, and is way more violent.
That to me remains the end all be all golden standard. Hell even if the Uygher genocide is real all these moralizing idiots are still wrong because our foreign policy in Palestine and Yemen proves we don't give a shit about the Uyghurs beyond how we can exploit them as a cynical political cudgel.
Yeah, heavy handed policing at times is apparent. But you can't rail against that while being in the US without confronting the blatantly obvious problems with it we also have. I would argue worse since it's been happening for far longer and for way more people.
Also, when someone is debunking false accusations of genocide and you fly in with "OK but the policing is a bit heavy handed"... IDK, maybe not the right time for that? I actually agree that the policing does seem heavy-handed, it's just not at all relevant in a discussion of "genocide".
Not saying that's what happened here, but it does sometimes happen.
Oh, I completely agree. Genocide and policing are world's apart. If it came off like I was trying to say something like "but but they're still bad" that wasn't my intent.
I was just going along with the whole shenanigans/discrimination part. What I meant was more that there's a reason media/ the state department has to escalate what is happening into something wildly worse than it is because the reality of the situation is rather mundane compared to the rest of the world and even our own country. And that it's especially rich for the US to condemn anyone for that when our current system has been going on for centuries, has effected way more people, and is way more violent.
Oh yeah, I wasn't pointing at you as an example of that or anything. Agreed 100%.
That to me remains the end all be all golden standard. Hell even if the Uygher genocide is real all these moralizing idiots are still wrong because our foreign policy in Palestine and Yemen proves we don't give a shit about the Uyghurs beyond how we can exploit them as a cynical political cudgel.
https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/3T0yhy6a0n.jpg
People will look at shit like this and still say China is like the USA.
Not just this, it's always the same map.
Americans have to make everything about them