Folks we are truly and utterly screwed

  • kingspooky [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The scholar (and once protester) argues against harming people, but

    Ok so like I know electoralism bad and the dems would just find a new scapegoat but like... is there a good reason people like Manchin and Sinema shouldn't be [REMOVED]? Like... removed from being alive?
    If everyone who pulls this shit gets killed it seems like people would stop doing it, considering afaik it is driven solely by a profit motive.

    • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      I think if politicians started dying as a proxy attack on the capital that sponsors them, then the reaction would be sharp and brutal.

      I’d keep an eye on what happens in the U.K. in the coming months after that Tory cumstain was stabbed today. More cops, more surveillance, less rights, backed by all political parties.

    • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Morally? Of course not. But with where popular consciousness is at now that's likely to make them martyrs of liberalsm and backlash to the movement. As things get worse that may change what level of violence the general public is willing to tolerate - but that book was written as an intervention to the climate movement circa 2019. That's pre-covid, so maybe it's already a little out of date. I personally think oil-execs would be a target a plurality of Americans would understand violence against, but it's probably better to start with targeted property destruction tactically. Normalize real resistance to fossil fuel extraction before going for harming people.

      TO BE CLEAR. THIS IS AN ACADEMIC DISCUSSION AND I AM BY NO MEANS ADVOCATING FOR THE HARM OF ANY PERSON.

      • Vizuzia [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Indeed, very academic, I'm putting this simulation in my next Minecraft education mod :big-cool:

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      What would happen if someone took out those genocidal ghouls? Would their replacements be any better? No, most certainly not. Would it terrorise other ghouls into acting responsibly and passing the necessary policies? No, not without the presence of a large militant movement willing and capable of doing the same to them. Would it make them into martyrs and alienate working class people from realistic climate policies? Probably, given the current ideological state of society. Would it result in good militant activists being killed or thrown in jail, thereby being rendered unable to contribute to the struggle? Yes, most likely.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      3 years ago

      it's very difficult to do, and would not have the effect you want it to have. These freaks fear nothing. They crave death. They want someone to release them from the hell they've built for everyone.