What are everyone's thoughts, feelings, opinions about both the old and new Evangelion series?

4.0 SPOILERS

I thought the rebuild ending was more depressing than EoE, partly because when given the power to create LITERALLY ANYTHING, Shinji goes ahead and creates a copy of THIS WORLD (evidenced by the use of a live action shot in the end), where he will live as a capitalist salaryman with his literal waifu.

At least in EoE everyone could choose to come out of instrumentality by themselves to create a new world, thus leaving everything ambiguous.

Pure ideology, Mark Fisher is vindicated yet again.

They also couldn't go 5 MINUTES without showing some 14 year old girl ass....

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Rei is ... basically Gendo's first victim. Cloned over and over again as part of Gendo's plan, reduced to an empty husk. There's this scene in Rebuild were she says she's vegetarian - i think it's not meant literally, but that she simply doesn't eat at all except for pills (see the fact that she only takes the tiniest sip from the miso soup Shinji offers her - could ofc be because the broth isn't veggie, but i think it's meant to imply that she doesn't require food and isn't used to consuming it). All she does is sit in her dark, empty apartment, take her medication and do what she's supposed to do. She's not even depressed like Shinji, she is completeley depersonalized. She is nobody. Just a cog in the machine that literally gets replaced when it gets broken.

    And then she gets to learn what it's like to be human, to connect to people, to lead a good, non-alienating life when she's working in the rice fields to provide for the community. And she takes that opportunity without hesitation, in the sweetest, kindest way possible. In spite of being a complete stranger to life outside of NERV, she's never scared or confused by all these things she doesn't know. Completely unlike Shinji and Asuka, who constantly push people away either by retreating or by aggressing. It's as if Rei's got this talent for caring and nurturing that the other pilots lack completely. That she's more capable of building a meaningful connection to others in spite of having zero learned social skills.

    Which, now that i think about it, may be kinda problematic, as she's a clone of Shinji's mother and in spite of never having been a mother herself, that automatically makes her the archetypal mother (see her deep curiosity about the gravid cat that lives under the train waggon). As if even a clone of his mother has no defining characteristics besides being maternal.

    • camaron28 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Kunihiko Ikuhara said that if he had made the show he would have ended it with Shinji and Rei meeting after a long time and Rei being pregnant from some guy. Symbolyzing her having managed to escape from her life at NERV and finding happines and connections outside.

      It would also be a perfect "fuck you" to all the otakus who don't engage with the themes of the show and treat her as their waifu (a doll).

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Re: Rei not eating, this would be supported by Asuka not being able to eat/only needing water in 4.0 (and I think 3.0).