They're at my uni and the whole thing seems like a honey pot. Anyone ever heard of these ppl?

    • hotcouchguy [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It really varies a lot.

      Trots historically were most known for being critics (to various degrees) of the Soviet Union and other socialist states. IMO their relative popularity at their peak mostly owed to this. This varied from "they have problems and need some serious reforms" to "they are essentially just state-run capitalism, but maybe even worse." I believe Trotsky himself changed his views on this several times, which is part of what caused this.

      Most of them use a relatively rigid model of democratic centralism, which imo over-emphasizes internal discipline and ideological agreement. They tend to believe that having a correct analysis will give them a disproportionate influence politically. I think these factors are what lead to their reputation for factionalism and splits.

      To be fair, they do (did?) actually have a pretty decent influence given their relatively small numbers, but I think this is less due to their theories being proven correct, and more due to the fact that their members are often extremely active and dedicated. The downside of this is that their newer members tend to burn out.

      Trotskyists also tend to be pretty well read, and pretty historically knowledgeable, but this knowledge tends to be narrow and deep. For example they'll know about dozens of figures from the Russian revolution and the 3rd international, but won't know much about any post-1968 theorists outside of their tendancy.

      I could go on, but I think that gives a fair introduction. I'm a former trot myself and I certainly have critiques, but I also think they're generally well intentioned and serious people who are trying to figure out the same problems as the rest of the left. I think their whole tendency is kind of on the decline, in numbers and in relevance, but I also think they did a lot of good during the tough period between the 70's and ~2008.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They believe socialist states should prioritize creating revolutions in other countries in order to ensure those countries can be fully socialist. A popular slogan is "communism can only be global."

      They hold socialist projects to very high standards, and care a lot about the class composition of government, the communization of the mop, etc.

      They prioritize the potential for socialism over anti imperialism, for example a lot of them supported the Syrian revolution because workers councils took over sections of the economy.

      They often maintain international communication with specifically Latin American communists. I knew a few folks whose branch was basically: a newspaper, a reading group, and a weekly fundraiser / penpal group for a mexican political prisoner.

      A lot of them do this thing called a "transitional program" where they get elected to school boards and city councils and advocate reforms that are impossible under capitalism with the hope that people will attack capitalism in order to realize them. This is Sawant's strategy.

      Also in my experience they have a parasitic relationship to social movements where they see them only as access to a platform and potential new members, and will prioritize those goals over the goals of the social movements.