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  • karl [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It’s totally a coopting and soft color revolution attempt of a legitimate movement, so I don’t know whether I should bother supporting anyone. Thank you for your service, for real.

    • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      I think it's worth pointing out that every color revolution is coopting a legitimate movement. Western powers can't brainwash hundreds of thousands or millions of people to go out and protest for no reason. What they do is buy the leadership and shape the narrative to direct those movements towards their ends.

      • phimosis__jones [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The most organized component of society will wind up taking over when shit hits the fan. Creating "civil society" institutions is a good investment for regime changers. Much cheaper than arming someone.

    • skeletorsass [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      The real answer is that if you live in the imperial core your "support" means nothing on the ground. You can do harm within the imperial core by backing the side of the imperialist power you live under, but your influence stops where your country's does. You don't have influence over what's happening there, only the intrigue around it in the imperial core. Posting is not praxis, opposing your own empire of residence is.

      • ComradeNagual [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Who you support matters because the imperial core seeks to legitimize their war efforts first in their own public opinion, as well as shield themselves from war crimes investigations within the core and keeping influence operations on the down low, in this instance, very few people in the public know about https://www.ned.org/region/central-and-eastern-europe/belarus-2019/

        • skeletorsass [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Yes, this is what I mean. The axis of action when living in the imperial core is entirely centered on supporting vs fighting your own country's imperialism. Anyone who thinks their support for any US-aligned group, regardless of who they are, actually matters in that country or does anything other than the will of the empire is deluded. If you live in the imperial core your voice only contributes to the narrative of the imperial core, and you only further the goals of empire by siding with it. Condemnation of US enemies does not forward resolving your critiques of them.

    • ComradeNagual [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      "legitimate movement" instigated by foreign NGOs and their paid agents. Kids are just ez to brainwash.

      • karl [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It is pretty amazing how many 30’s and younger are out there, seemingly oblivious to the role that RFERL has played, and does play. Chanting RFE was a big yikes.

        • ComradeNagual [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          yeh, they have like 80 years of experience in doing just that, this is not their first color revolution

            • ComradeNagual [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah, its always like that.

              'Legitimate Grievances' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-uPVyxQl-k

              Consequences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLaTcJey8aM

              'Legitimate Grievances' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7e6B64Iqqg

              Consequences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l118fdnkS0

              'Legitimate Grievances' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF5twgbM6_4

              Consequences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6DVrzGBXGw

              And that is just very recent history

                • ComradeNagual [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  Oh these OTHER color revolutions went like that, but THIS ONE won't. lmao. Not how it works. Their ultimate objective is destabilization and war, to generate demand for their goods, weapons, and not to allow anyone else to have power.

      • karl [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Well, yes. But there are still plenty of people out there oblivious to it. I’m not endorsing it. I suppose calling it legitimate was a poor choice.