It’s totally a coopting and soft color revolution attempt of a legitimate movement, so I don’t know whether I should bother supporting anyone. Thank you for your service, for real.
I think it's worth pointing out that every color revolution is coopting a legitimate movement. Western powers can't brainwash hundreds of thousands or millions of people to go out and protest for no reason. What they do is buy the leadership and shape the narrative to direct those movements towards their ends.
The most organized component of society will wind up taking over when shit hits the fan. Creating "civil society" institutions is a good investment for regime changers. Much cheaper than arming someone.
The real answer is that if you live in the imperial core your "support" means nothing on the ground. You can do harm within the imperial core by backing the side of the imperialist power you live under, but your influence stops where your country's does. You don't have influence over what's happening there, only the intrigue around it in the imperial core. Posting is not praxis, opposing your own empire of residence is.
Who you support matters because the imperial core seeks to legitimize their war efforts first in their own public opinion, as well as shield themselves from war crimes investigations within the core and keeping influence operations on the down low, in this instance, very few people in the public know about https://www.ned.org/region/central-and-eastern-europe/belarus-2019/
Yes, this is what I mean. The axis of action when living in the imperial core is entirely centered on supporting vs fighting your own country's imperialism. Anyone who thinks their support for any US-aligned group, regardless of who they are, actually matters in that country or does anything other than the will of the empire is deluded. If you live in the imperial core your voice only contributes to the narrative of the imperial core, and you only further the goals of empire by siding with it. Condemnation of US enemies does not forward resolving your critiques of them.
"legitimate movement" instigated by foreign NGOs and their paid agents. Kids are just ez to brainwash.
yeh, they have like 80 years of experience in doing just that, this is not their first color revolution
It's easier to assume that than that their grievances are legit, yup.
Yeah, its always like that.
'Legitimate Grievances' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-uPVyxQl-k
Consequences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLaTcJey8aM
'Legitimate Grievances' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7e6B64Iqqg
Consequences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l118fdnkS0
'Legitimate Grievances' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF5twgbM6_4
Consequences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6DVrzGBXGw
And that is just very recent history
Oh these OTHER color revolutions went like that, but THIS ONE won't. lmao. Not how it works. Their ultimate objective is destabilization and war, to generate demand for their goods, weapons, and not to allow anyone else to have power.
So you wanna address the actual thing people could be moved by the thousands in Belarus? If not, i'm not gonna waste my time,
What actual thing. Freedumb to have a neoliberal puppet vlogger as president?
"Freedumb" to decide if they want a neoliberal puppet vlogger (or whatever) as a president?
It is pretty amazing how many 30’s and younger are out there, seemingly oblivious to the role that RFERL has played, and does play. Chanting RFE was a big yikes.
Well, yes. But there are still plenty of people out there oblivious to it. I’m not endorsing it. I suppose calling it legitimate was a poor choice.
Very interesting. Thanks for all the works you did to find and translate it.
this isn’t simply some kind of purely manufactured conflict.
It is tho.
when he tried to speak in front of workers at the Minsk Wheeled Tractor Plant
It was later revealed it was 'students' lol, just like in HK and Ukraine, easily influenced by foreign NGOs https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/article/3097523/hong-kong-activist-writer-kong-tsung-gan-confirms-thats-only
Whose ideas and whose interests will dominate if these free elections go ahead?
NATOs and the EUs. Then it will be turned into Poland/Hungary-2
As bad as the situation is for them now, I fear that it is almost certainly going to get worse.
War is worse yeah.
If you don't lend support to Lukashenko in this moment, you're an Imperialist chauvinist cracker
"Belarus: Are under-regulated capitalism and underer-regulated capitalism the only options?" Written by capitalism and posted on whatever this dumb-shit forum is for.
Didn't read cuz I don't care. But if you look at other John Malone media outlets like the OP then you see that he's starting to position public opinion in favor of opposition change belarus. For instance iHeartRadio's propaganda outlet, Behind The Bastards, is covering Alexander Lukashenko.
OP is doing right-wing liberalism. Op is raising John Malone's daughter with his own money.
Hey buddy, sorry you're busy doing a liberalism but let me interject here: this is the first step towards boots on the group regime change and a decade long unwinnable war that only benefits the people selling arms to belarus. Pretending Lukashenko came up in a vacuum and can be destroyed by regime change is literally just being a liberal. It's treating symptoms and not causes. Lukashenko is the capitalist that american and european capitalists wanted in charge because they could make money off his failed state and then make even more money deposing him.
This is the same idea as arming the taliban against the soviets to fight then but also so they could be the dick distardly of global politics 20 years later.
You're pretending that the problems with belarus started with Lukashenko. Politicians don't do politics. Donors do politics. Do you agree that the US media is angling towards regime change in belarus? Do you think that'd be a good thing?
I didn't pick a side. I'm not villifying either side of what's happening in Belarus because I know every single piece of information is being filtered by John Malone's right wing media empire because its in his economic interest to sell guns in belarus.
I'm just done pretending Politicians do politics. Donors do politics. If Americans and Europeans didn't want him in power, he wouldn't be in power. I'm not going to support a media campaign designed to start another forever-war. When we decontextualize leftism it becomes right wing conservatism.
Politicians do pop culture. Donors do politics.
https://belarusfeed.com/richest-and-most-powerful-businessmen-belarus/
Every single name on this list is more powerful than Lukashenko they will remain in power after regime change. So why do it?
Nobody cares what crackers like you think. Your username truly dudes check out.
Every US politician and multinational in the past decade is a creation of malone. his family owns the entire entertainment supply chain, including the news. Rupert Murdoch is a lieutenant under Malone and everyone things he's the top of american rightwing politics despite not being american or owning anything real.
Well right now all kinds of "moderate conspiracy" podcasts are spotlighting lukashenko. Including the mainstream, popular ones on iHeartRadio and Discovery Channel properties (Stuff They Don't Want You To Know and Behind The Bastards) and iHeart is a Malone subsidiary.
My whole thing is kind of as simple as this: Right now the biggest scumbags in the entire world have mobilized their media empires for the purpose of regime change in belarus. This conversation has to be bigger than the guy we're ousting, it has to include the ousters and that's going to be us. And we fucking suck just as bad Lukashenko.
So why not make the headline matter? Burying a leftist truth in a rightwing article is how liberalism is made.
"Are neoliberalism and nationalism the only options" is not a rightwing headline though. It's unusually clear what the author intends.
if you want to post an article that isn't complete garbage then make the article about these guys:
https://belarusfeed.com/richest-and-most-powerful-businessmen-belarus/
Politicians are pop culture. Donors do politics.
I can only post what is actually out there.
No, you have reddit brain. you can type up anything and post anything, anywhere and then link it here. You did a liberalism by letting media oligarchs frame the conversation and then you decided to form an opinion within it.
