do they think there's a significant segment of the russian population who think that the collapse of all social institutions 30 years ago was a good thing?
That's what I kinda don't get; they won. The USSR was destroyed, and with it the very party and nation-state directly responsible for all the betrayed revolutions and besmirching of the good name of communism. They got what they wanted and were finally vindicated by history. They got what they desired (pensioners forced to take predatory loans from gangsters so they can pay the bills using their house as collateral, only to have the gangsters murder them to keep the house and rent it, young women graduates of science universities who would've had all but guaranteed employment forced to sell themselves into sex slavery) and yet they're still mad about it to the point it lives this hard in their heads rent-free.
The collapse of the USSR and over a decade of hell is not enough. Russia must submit to the "rules based international order", or they must be vanquished.
I imagine they know the results of the USSR collapsing
They really really don't, because if they did they'd recognize it for the absolute tragic catastrophe it was for millions of people. As far as the average russophobe (because this long con shit isn't even about being anti-Soviet, it really is just about hating Russia) is concerned the Soviet Union and the RusFed are the same entity with a new lick of paint and different cap badges.
Liberals don't give a shit about material outcomes. Russia has capitalist "freedom" now so as far as libs are concerned, all else is irrelevant and those damn Ruskies should be more grateful we saved them from themselves.
They don't know, they either think it's all good now, or they think it didn't collapse hard enough and that's why it's still suffocating people with gobbulism
do they think there's a significant segment of the russian population who think that the collapse of all social institutions 30 years ago was a good thing?
That's what I kinda don't get; they won. The USSR was destroyed, and with it the very party and nation-state directly responsible for all the betrayed revolutions and besmirching of the good name of communism. They got what they wanted and were finally vindicated by history. They got what they desired (pensioners forced to take predatory loans from gangsters so they can pay the bills using their house as collateral, only to have the gangsters murder them to keep the house and rent it, young women graduates of science universities who would've had all but guaranteed employment forced to sell themselves into sex slavery) and yet they're still mad about it to the point it lives this hard in their heads rent-free.
its hauntology innit
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A better world might've been possible, but it was far more pressing the tankie red fash were put in their place
Oh hi Noam, how are you feeling? :chumpsky:
The collapse of the USSR and over a decade of hell is not enough. Russia must submit to the "rules based international order", or they must be vanquished.
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They really really don't, because if they did they'd recognize it for the absolute tragic catastrophe it was for millions of people. As far as the average russophobe (because this long con shit isn't even about being anti-Soviet, it really is just about hating Russia) is concerned the Soviet Union and the RusFed are the same entity with a new lick of paint and different cap badges.
Liberals don't give a shit about material outcomes. Russia has capitalist "freedom" now so as far as libs are concerned, all else is irrelevant and those damn Ruskies should be more grateful we saved them from themselves.
They don't know, they either think it's all good now, or they think it didn't collapse hard enough and that's why it's still suffocating people with gobbulism
I think you are giving these reactionaries too much credit.