this is literally what my boomer dad who has 0 political literacy says about Russia
One of my favorite moments is during the Russian Olympics opening ceremony, my parents were so confused by the Russian flag. "Whose flag is that??" They asked.
Lol, reminds me of this scene where at a rugby match they mistakenly play the USSR anthem instead of the RusFed anthem and the Russian players, after a few seconds of visible confusion, just start belting out "PAAAAAARTIIIIYAAAA LEEEEENINAAAAAAA"
Eventually the Russian Federation scrapped the anthem of the Yeltsin regime and returned to using the awesome Soviet anthem, albeit with bastardised lyrics.
Look who their opponents were. I don't think it was an accident lol. Well done Comrade Sound System
Indeed, and IIRC they won that match in the end, further cementing the strength of the immortal science of Marxism-Leninsim.
USSR is gone but its ghost lives on in the minds of yanks :specter:
You dramatically over estimate the political literacy of your average American. 75% of the population here couldn't give you an actual definition for liberalism or conservatism to save their lives, let alone anything more than that.
I just realized the OP of this cringefest of a thread is the same dipshit who made a similar fedpost a week or so ago; their posting pattern is sus as fuck, going silent for a year only to pop up just now on Antiwork to immediately post anti-Soviet bait shit.
love how these absolute fucking dweebs believe that fucking russia is pulling a long con on communism but china? they're just state capitalist 1984 there is no progression from that apparently.
The state that explicitly tells you they're pulling the long con? Their scheming Asiatic skull shapes compel them to lie.
The state that explicitly tells you they're not pulling the long con? Believe it or not, their scheming Asiatic skull shapes also compel them to lie. :centrist:
Man Putin has really been following the communist doctrine of turning the country into a stagnating mess and destroying all the good will the population has had for him by not really making things better anymore
Beyond the nationalism thing when your point of comparison is Yeltsin and the 90s it makes sense
Same here, but if we want to play the anecdotal evidence game, I’ve known Russians who don’t like him at all
He's still popular but I believe his COVID response has done some damage recently.
I'm so glad Yeltsin is rotting in hell. If only his bodyguards had slept on the job and let him die of hypothermia during one of his many quasi-suicidal drunken benders where he'd fall asleep outdoors in sub-zero nights.
China is doing fine, but I expect to see the US Yeltsin in my lifetime. There is going to be a president that makes everyone remember Trump as the essence of dignified statecraft, and it is going to be a sight to see.
I actually do want to see an American president captured by Chinese political interests like what chuds say Biden is.
Biden is already close, lmao. I still can't believe the shit with the submarine deal.
do they think there's a significant segment of the russian population who think that the collapse of all social institutions 30 years ago was a good thing?
That's what I kinda don't get; they won. The USSR was destroyed, and with it the very party and nation-state directly responsible for all the betrayed revolutions and besmirching of the good name of communism. They got what they wanted and were finally vindicated by history. They got what they desired (pensioners forced to take predatory loans from gangsters so they can pay the bills using their house as collateral, only to have the gangsters murder them to keep the house and rent it, young women graduates of science universities who would've had all but guaranteed employment forced to sell themselves into sex slavery) and yet they're still mad about it to the point it lives this hard in their heads rent-free.
:specter:
A better world might've been possible, but it was far more pressing the tankie red fash were put in their place
A better world might’ve been possible, but it was far more pressing the tankie red fash were put in their place
Oh hi Noam, how are you feeling? :chumpsky:
The collapse of the USSR and over a decade of hell is not enough. Russia must submit to the "rules based international order", or they must be vanquished.
I imagine they know the results of the USSR collapsing
They really really don't, because if they did they'd recognize it for the absolute tragic catastrophe it was for millions of people. As far as the average russophobe (because this long con shit isn't even about being anti-Soviet, it really is just about hating Russia) is concerned the Soviet Union and the RusFed are the same entity with a new lick of paint and different cap badges.
Liberals don't give a shit about material outcomes. Russia has capitalist "freedom" now so as far as libs are concerned, all else is irrelevant and those damn Ruskies should be more grateful we saved them from themselves.
They don't know, they either think it's all good now, or they think it didn't collapse hard enough and that's why it's still suffocating people with gobbulism
Putin just sitting around waiting to hit the button that turns all the McDonald's into labor camps, rebuilds the Berlin Wall and brings Lenin back from the dead
remember it's better not to follow a direct link if you're going to participate, find it via new/rising/search
EDIT: or I guess in this case, going to Straight_Depth's user page
makes it less obvious/easy for reddit to filter votes and comments or use it as a pretext to ban your account for bRiGaDiNg, I guess
The dorks in that thread really think they're speaking truth to power.
I really wish they would read the part of Blackshirts and Reds where Parenti describes the problems with the USSR. I think they'd short-circuit.
Hyperbole aside, :reddit-logo: actually seems like it's getting pretty close to that. So many liberals claiming to be "anarchists". Here is a lot better, at least.
Yeah I like the anarchists here because most of them are actually anarchist and not mask on fash.
You should probably edit something to that effect into your original comment so the mods don't take it down for sectarianism. But yeah, there are definitely principled anarchists out there, it just seems like :reddit-logo: drowns them out in a storm of... whatever this is.
idk about that but on reddit you would probably be correct 9 times outta 10. Sooooo many people who have just seen 10 chomsky videos and call themselves anarchists or anarchosyndicalist or libleft or whatever
ancom flag flair Checks out, anyone on the internet saying they're an anarchist is a liberal in disguise
fucking :cringe: take
It's deeply saddening the good name of anarchism be besmirched by a dweeb pulling literal Russiagate hysteria rhetoric
It's literally the same anarchist as the last one. They need to ban this fool for sectarianism
They need to ban this fool for sectarianism
I doubt they care. It's explicitly not a left unity space, as I understand it.
If he's posting Russiagate conspiracy shit, though, they should probably ban him for being racist. That's all this "devious, scheming Russians under the bed" shit really is.
The mods there are pretty cool with sinophobia and russophobia. One literally said that nationalism is good and defended America as a better place for workers than China or Russia because those places are "authoritarian"
One literally said that nationalism is good and defended America
A mod? Aren't they supposed to be anarchists?
as a better place for workers than China or Russia because those places are “authoritarian”
:lmayo:
Yeah, that place is a land of contradictions. People who have anarchist in their handle are defending states while me, the "authoritarian tankie" is taking the principles anarchist position and thinking them to touch grass.
Seems like a lot of children who've never read a book and only watch breadtube.
They deleted both the original Russiagate shit comment in the OP as well as their retort to Nakoichi where they took up the bat for neolib media darling and far-right nationalist Navalny. I call this a win
