I know it's like crazy sci-fi to think Biden ever would. I just want to know if the following article by Ryan Cooper is accurate. I find it nearly impossible to believe.

I've got a simple and easy solution for this. Biden declares judicial review null and void.

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Democrats have a better option than court packing

There has been comparatively little attention to the simplest and easiest way to get around potentially tyrannical right-wing justices: just ignore them. The president and Congress do not actually have to obey the Supreme Court.

The weird thing about judicial "originalism" is that the explicit principle of judicial review is nowhere to be found in the Constitution. All of that document's stipulations on how the courts are to be constructed are contained in one single sentence in Article III: "The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish." Actual judicial review was a product of a cynical power grab from Chief Justice John Marshall, who simply asserted out of nothing in Marbury vs. Madison that the court could overturn legislation — but did it in a way to benefit incoming president Thomas Jefferson politically, so as to neutralize his objection to the principle.

Jefferson famously hated judicial review. In one letter, he said it is "a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so." But because of Marshall's canny political strategy, from that day forward Congress and the president have mostly deferred to the court's views and allowed it to strike down laws or establish entirely new legal principles even on completely spurious grounds.

As Matt Bruenig argues at the People's Policy Project, it would be quite easy in practical terms to get rid of judicial review: "All the president has to do is assert that Supreme Court rulings about constitutionality are merely advisory and non-binding, that Marbury (1803) was wrongly decided, and that the constitutional document says absolutely nothing about the Supreme Court having this power." So, for instance, if Congress were to pass some law expanding Medicare, and the reactionaries on the court say it's unconstitutional because Cthulhu fhtagn, the president would say "no, I am trusting Congress on this one, and I will continue to operate the program as instructed."

No doubt many liberals will object to this idea. It would be a fairly extreme step in terms of how America's constitutional system functions, and a lot of Democrats fear the idea of a Republican president not being hemmed in by the legal system. Big chunks of liberal political advocacy (like the ACLU) rely on pressing political cases through the courts. Conversely, conservatives have long advanced the idea that they are against "judicial activism," which makes liberals favor it more through negative polarization.

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Most Americans are taught from a young age that the Supreme Court being able to strike down laws is what it means to have the rule of law. But this is not true. For one thing, as Doreen Lustig and J. H. H. Weiler write in the International Journal of Constitutional Law, judicial review is not nearly as intrusive in every other country as it is here. Some nations, like Austria or France, have a special Constitutional Court which rules on constitutional questions, but relatively infrequently. In others, like Finland or Denmark, judicial review basically never happens. In no other developed democracy does basically every piece of major legislation have to run a years-long gauntlet of tendentious lawsuits trying to get through the courts what parties could not get through the legislature.

Moreover, simply refusing to agree to judicial review has happened before in American history. As historian Matt Karp writes at Jacobin, when the Civil War broke out, President Lincoln and Congress ignored the Dred Scott decision in a law banning slavery in all federal territories, and when Chief Justice Roger B. Taney ruled Lincoln did not have the power to suspend habeas corpus, the president ignored him. As Karp argues, storming the citadel of reactionary court power was necessary to destroy slavery.

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    3 years ago

    Hi, political scientist here, he's completely right on all accounts here. The Supreme Court of the US absolutely has no special powers or abilities determined in any real way other than "because the Supreme Court said that they have this power." It was in fact designed to just be a more or less standard court designed to take overflow cases and to have final say on appeals. That's really it.

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        3 years ago

        Yep. And yeah, Lincoln ignoring the Supreme Court statement on slavery is a perfect example of it having literally no power at all. Great example to establish precedent as literally no one in DC is suicidal enough to suggest that they disagree with that.

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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          3 years ago

          Throw the justices on a bus and send them off to rubber stamp asylum cases that USCIS is pretending they lack the resources to handle. That's literally what the justices are for.

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    i mean yeah, the supreme court used to be a bunch of dirty judges traveling around holding court in dirty taverns taking overflow cases, they fabricated their 'esteemed' position out of whole cloth, it's all bullshit

    edit: these mfers should be holding court in days inns handling cases the local courts can't get to, they aren't special august arbiters of a god damn thing

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      just replying to this because i was thinking about it and drinking and the entire concept of "originalist" supreme court justices is just silly as hell, since if they really believed only what's in the constitution explicitly stated they'd have to resign their position as the current SC is a completely unconstitutional practice

      listen to the 5-4 podcast they drag our shitty stupid judges so well

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    fantasies about democrats exercising power, enjoy but it won't happen

  • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    So another tool that Republicans are going to use first to do something terrible.

    • Edelgard [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Conservatives already have. Andrew Jackson was ordered by the supreme court to stop waging genocide against indigenous people and told them to fuck off.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      The house and the senate are sworn in before the president. So - if (when.) the GOP starts to control the presidency and both chambers after the 2024 elections - I don't see what's stopping them from doing all sorts of evil shit before President Ghoul's inauguration day. The GOP congress does all the paperwork and has everything ready for President Ghoul to sign.

      In his (or her) speech President Ghoul says "The GOP congress fired the parliamentarian and they killed the filibuster. That was only the beginning. Later today I'm going to officially start the process of abolishing the IRS, the Department of Energy, and the Department of Education. I am changing the structure of Homeland Security and the Federal Reserve to fit conservative principles. All federal loyalty oaths will now be made to the president. And..."

  • guppyman [any]
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    3 years ago

    Chuds will have a seismic meltdown if this happens.

  • D61 [any]
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    3 years ago

    The supreme court just makes opinions, they have no physical authority to enforce those opinions.

    The American people will shit themselves inside out if he does something this based though.

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Before Trump was president I might have thought democrats would do something like this if forced to. But they spent the entire time whining about norms being broken. They don't care about anything but norms. This is the biggest norm of all the norms.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      As if any typical American would give a fuck if they fired the parliamentarian, ended the filibuster, took extraordinary steps to forced out DeJoy from the Postal Service - just to start with. Many people's Christmas presents might arrive late in January. And they are not going to say "Oh, my goodness - that god that the democrats protected norms at the Postal Service. They'll say "Why the fuck didn't the democrats fix the post office?"

      I get so angry at r/politics with the "Well, actually..." crowd who tell me they can't just fire DeJoy. Whatever. Fire other people and then fire his ass. Or just change something and then fire his ass. Do whatever it takes - just fire his fucking ass. But ooooooh, noooooo - the fucking precious norms would have to be changed. The dems should have done this shit in February.

      • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If a president ended judicial review I think the media would have an afghanistan-level meltdown over it to chip away at their support. It should still be done, but I don’t agree with the part about Americans not caring. They will care if the news talks about it enough.

        • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I didn't mention judicial review in my comment. It's... I dunno what to call it - the nuclear nuclear option. If an earth-killing asteroid was headed directly at earth and the GOP justices blocked NASA, Bruce Willis, and his buddies going into space to save us - we'd all die. Biden and the dems wouldn't do anything.

          They will care if the news talks about it enough.

          Now that you mention it - if the Biden and dems had done what's impossible for them firing DeJoy way back in February - I wonder how the lib pundits would have responded. I think there would have been a week of pearl clutching that the dems had overstepped. and they'd whine about norms. But then their interest in that case would fade away.

          Firing the parliamentarian would have gotten many of them rattled.

          Killing the filibuster would have melted some of their brains.

  • Edelgard [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    :bloomer:

    Good. This is exactly what should happen. Manners and tradition don’t fucking matter, only results and wielding power.

  • ElGosso [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Okay well first of all, Democrats will never do this. Never, ever, ever. No spine, no guts, no whatever. Secondly, if they actually did do it? It would be over some shit we don't want them to do, like making labor unions illegal or some dumbass thing like that.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      like making labor unions illegal

      I wouldn't be surprised if after the dems get destroyed in 2022 and 2024 - they actually campaign on shit like that for 2028 to "fix" America.