the disaster is right now, unfolding in front of our eyes. collapse is pure ideology.

  • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    A lot of the collapseniks seem to believe there is some singular defining moment that will be when the collapse "happens". In reality it's a slower burning, far more boring series of barely perceptible non-events that to the layperson looks more like the garbage not being collected for a while and the mail taking longer than usual and the cops not arriving, ever, and the centralized government becoming more and more distant and uncontactable. Don't look into it too deeply or anything.

    • effervescent [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Oh you mean the things that the US’s own intelligence agencies are predicting will happen over the next decade?

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      And it'll happen fast in some places, but not all at once. A seawall collapses. A 20 year drought empties a city. But most places keep going on just fine.

      Of course...If the system is under too much stress and has no resiliancy...you can get a Bronze age collapse scenario when a lot of things go down inside a decade, and you can even pinpoint an 18 month period at its peak where people don't even have time to tell the next city along the line that the city before them has fallen.

    • LilComrade [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      And those things have already been happening to some, and will not happen to others for centuries. Collapse has a class character.

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Most of the time, we figure out things were falls or collapses after the fact.