• comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah, but it’s how to say it, grandfathered unions, from period of consciousness.

    They see themselves getting fucked over by both parties, and vote whatever, for party national bourgeoisie cause it’s their bosses at least, instead of international bourgeoisie. That’s not consciousness, that’s choosing your cage in golden color with nicer water :shrug-outta-hecks:

    • volkvulture [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      So deindustrialized areas with failing public school education & sky-rocketing crime rates, where public-sector unions are perhaps one of the last functional bastions of class consciousness, actually just aren't class conscious enough for you? lmao

      when are you just going to say, "fuck the poor if they don't Democrat" ?

      • comi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Until they tar and feather at least one politician and judge - no, lol.

        They vote what they believe is their best interest - party of national/local/petit bourgeoisie, cause international burgers will fuck them even harder. Again that not conscious, that’s survival instincts

        • volkvulture [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Sounds like fedposting... they tried this in Michigan & supposedly had a plan to kill public officials & the idiots in that group were primarily FBI & CI's lol

          If this shift from the Dems is done primarily with the recognition that Democrats failed, then it's class conscious as hell

          • comi [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            But their reasoning was masks and covid restrictions, again that’s not worker consciousness. I’m not advocating, I’m saying it’s an indicator.

            They, presumably, cheered that Supreme Court fuck who said it’s legal to freeze driver to death, cause contract. Riddle me this, where is the worker anger at that?

            • volkvulture [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              I didn't say that menacing public officials is class conscious, it's probably the opposite. It's fedposting

              Casting aspersions about a case that few have heard about isn't really a political matter, that case was also conducted while Gorsuch was a Federal District Court of Appeals judge & during the Obama era

              Gorsuch was confirmed to the Tenth Circuit in 2006 with a unanimous vote in the Senate lol

              • comi [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                If you think working class ascended onto some higher plane of non-violent action, that’s cool and good, but all prior history indicates that worker movements would do something’s which skirts the law at least. Again, I’m saying that’s an indicator of awareness where problem lies, and not fedposting of “therefore, unless you explode train with emperor, your movement is unconscious” cargo cult style thinking.

                Maybe class consciousness with american characteristics would be voting for gop with socialist candidates, but i find that extremely unlikely.

                Gorsuch case indicates, that there is no solidarity, which is again weak indicator that there is no awareness. Come on, if 20 percent of trucks stopped dead for a month, he wouldn’t be confirmed anywhere

                • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  All prior history indicates that these really untoward & blatant over-the-top violent "calls-to-action" are largely psyops & largely used against the respective "movements" they arise from. That's been the case for over 100 years. If you can point to some real information or data, I'd be glad to engage with it

                  Class consciousness isn't simply contained in the bare fact of who someone votes for, it's also in what the voters are turning out to vote against. We can say that everyone who refuses workplace mask/vaccine mandates is just a brainless hog, or we can say that there really is a divide between the workers & employers where the mandates themselves are the limiting factor, rather than the public health concerns they're implemented for

                  Gorsuch case indicates that both parties support corporate legal hacks & ALEC-style pre-packaged bills for the benefit of the ownership classes.