In america, the differences are largely aesthetic and an op. But historically, ML types have murdered an awful lot of anarchists for not having the 'right' vision of a leftist future. But in america, where the left is dead in the water, the whole 'picking a team' thing definitely feels like an op. But, it's probably just leftists being leftists.
It's easy to be unified when you have no vision, only a vague emotional urge to 'go back to a better time'. When you're on the side of creating better futures, you're going to have disagreements.
I agree with the poster who quoted Freire's The Pedagogy of the Oppressed. Actually, I appreciate a lot of the posters in here arguing anti-sectarianism. Build left power.
If I were CIA, or some troll trying to fuck with the left, my number one strategy would be divisive sectarianism. Just, posts about how 'the other side' is shit and doesn't have anything to offer.
Normalize a culture where it's haram to read 'the other team's' work. And where it's ok to demean people with different perspectives. Where it looks like a bunch of out-of-touch nerds infighting to any lib who glances in. What's the phrase... Separate and Defeat? Some ancient thing like that
The prioritization of anarchist revolution in civil war Spain ahead of fighting the civil was as a United front with the, yes socdems/demsocs and communists, was what started the whole deal
"The prioritization of anarchist revolution" was what provided the whole region with food, but go off.
I mean, obviously we agree here which is why we’re both arguing anti-sectarianism. But anarchists haven’t exactly gone around mass killing MLs, or backstabbing them. Maybe I’m misreading the history, but that seems like a real part of it. MLs joke about it, anarchists worry about it, I casually mention it. Again, I could be misreading history, but I find it important to mention, basically, the main material outcomes of sectarianism that we’ve seen
those examples are the exceptions in front of the millions of anarchists that worked very well with communists historicaly and supported communist projects
And I totally agree. That’s why I believe sectarianism, and frankly even ‘tendency sioling’ is kinda absurd today. I mean, another commenter has even pointed out that modern anarchists have mostly synthesized an acknowledgement of the need for a dictatorship of the proletariat.
Maybe I shouldn’t have brought it up, my apologies. But it’s definitely a part of the conversation, whether we think it shouldn’t be or not. I’ve literally had ML chapos say that they’ll kill me when the revolution comes because they identify me as an anarchist (I’m not)
It's just such a relevant, prescient quote. I love how Freire walks the line between educator, psychologist, and revolutionary. What a based intersection to sit at
Sectarianism, fed by fanaticism, is always castrating. Radicalization, nourished by a critical spirit, is always creative. Sectarianism mythicizes and thereby alienates; radicalization criticizes and thereby liberates. Radicalization involves increased commitment to the position one has chosen, and thus ever greater engagement in the effort to transform concrete, objective reality. Conversely, sectarianism, because it is mythicizing and irrational, turns reality into a false (and therefore unchangeable) “reality.”
In america, the differences are largely aesthetic and an op. But historically, ML types have murdered an awful lot of anarchists for not having the 'right' vision of a leftist future. But in america, where the left is dead in the water, the whole 'picking a team' thing definitely feels like an op. But, it's probably just leftists being leftists.
It's easy to be unified when you have no vision, only a vague emotional urge to 'go back to a better time'. When you're on the side of creating better futures, you're going to have disagreements.
I agree with the poster who quoted Freire's The Pedagogy of the Oppressed. Actually, I appreciate a lot of the posters in here arguing anti-sectarianism. Build left power.
If I were CIA, or some troll trying to fuck with the left, my number one strategy would be divisive sectarianism. Just, posts about how 'the other side' is shit and doesn't have anything to offer.
Normalize a culture where it's haram to read 'the other team's' work. And where it's ok to demean people with different perspectives. Where it looks like a bunch of out-of-touch nerds infighting to any lib who glances in. What's the phrase... Separate and Defeat? Some ancient thing like that
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"The prioritization of anarchist revolution" was what provided the whole region with food, but go off.
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I mean, obviously we agree here which is why we’re both arguing anti-sectarianism. But anarchists haven’t exactly gone around mass killing MLs, or backstabbing them. Maybe I’m misreading the history, but that seems like a real part of it. MLs joke about it, anarchists worry about it, I casually mention it. Again, I could be misreading history, but I find it important to mention, basically, the main material outcomes of sectarianism that we’ve seen
And I totally agree. That’s why I believe sectarianism, and frankly even ‘tendency sioling’ is kinda absurd today. I mean, another commenter has even pointed out that modern anarchists have mostly synthesized an acknowledgement of the need for a dictatorship of the proletariat.
Maybe I shouldn’t have brought it up, my apologies. But it’s definitely a part of the conversation, whether we think it shouldn’t be or not. I’ve literally had ML chapos say that they’ll kill me when the revolution comes because they identify me as an anarchist (I’m not)
It's just such a relevant, prescient quote. I love how Freire walks the line between educator, psychologist, and revolutionary. What a based intersection to sit at
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