News will not tell you but this is Big:
The Wierd thing about the Tigray War is that Tigray (TLF) is lead by the old Army staff of the Ethopia Army. Like this Dude : Tsadkan Gebretensae , Rebel Comander --> Chief of Staff --> Rebel Comander . While the Army is lead by total amatuers and genocidal maniacs ..
And as the Oromo Ambush on the souther Road seems to have suprised the retreating Gov. Forces ( Cauldron) , Road to Addis Abeba seems pretty open ... This might hae been the Pivotal Battle ..
We might see a genocidal Nobel Peace Recipient get slaughter in Street.
Holy shit I forgot Abiy won the Nobel Peace Prize for conspiring with Eritrea to do genocide in Tigray.
Like looking at this list of Peace Prize winners a good quarter of them have committed crimes against humanity.
The '73 Prize was awarded to Kissinger and Le Duc Tho, who negotiated the Paris Accords for the US and North Vietnam respectively. Le refused his prize and pointed out 1) there wasn't actually peace in Vietnam yet and the prize was just bougie Westerners trying to pat themselves on the back and 2) the US attacked Vietnam and it was an insult to give both the US and Vietnam the Peace Prize, if they had just given it to Le or another Vietmenese it might have made more sense.
Nobel established the prize so everyone would forget that he introduced high explosives to warfare. It's not a worthy prize.
Okay, so basic run down is TPLF was ousted in 2018 and a civil war was initiated.
TPLF started on the backfoot and was loosing ground to the federal forces (EDF) aided by the Ethiopian federal forces (ENDF).
The TPLF forces have been all but wiped out, and the several fronts that are forming in the wake of their defeat are revealing the genocidal intentions of the EDF as it's along ethnic lines. The TDF was formed sometime last year with the remnants of TPLF forces and EDF defectors.
That's what I've got so far, please correct me if I'm wrong.
It truly is a amazing Battlefield turnaround by a besiege and starved people ... that are threatend with extermination from both fronts..and treated with silence or confusion by a disinterested world, They lost their capital and the hole Roadnetwork in tigray before pushing back and in the Mediablackout silcene seems to have truly diminished the Ethoipian army ... thats not a small plane but a C130 for example..
TPLF wasn't wiped out, they lost the conventional war and returned to their guerilla fighter roots. This worked out very well for them and they have now retaken the vast majority of Tigray
So that's a good thing? Or is the TDF/TPLF also participating in genocide? I noticed some of the later entries in the timeline had the TDF forces killing hundreds of civilians.
Its very hard to say with certainty, as a lot of the claims about TPLF/TDF war crimes are being made by the Ethiopian government, however, it is my understanding that they are defending themselves from the Ethiopian and Eritrean government who have absolutely been committing genocide against Tigrayans. The TDF may be doing some revenge killings of civilians in non-Tigrayan areas they have moved in to, but I would not call this genocide, as the war is largely taking place inside Tigray, where the TPLF/TDF would not commit genocide, as they are a Tigrayan nationalist organisation.
Gotcha, there's also the added factor that the TDF is a united front that isn't purely TPLF controlled and is just everyone in Tigray that is fighting the genocidal EDF/ENDF
If you are an American , you have to realise that you can search "purity" in War for the rest of eternity and dont find it...
just not the frameing thats appropriate ... Its a Genocidal War , shit is Messy , real messy , and "as you shout into the Forest it will shout back at you" ...
"Invaders" and "Defenders" is the appropriat Frame .. ...and Invaders dont have the Luxury of complaining when the roles reverse after they have set the "Tone" of the conflict... When you bring war on your neigbours dont be suprised if you bring it on yourself also ...
Aren't the Tigray backed by the US? Honestly asking, I only have vague notions of what's going on.
TPLF is the Socialist old party of ethiopia , theyare not Backed by the US ! . Check the Timeline I linked its a brutal genocidal campaign against every Tigrayen ..and absolut Silence by the Media . There would not be "Yemen Silence" ,if there wouldn't be "Yemen Interests" . Look at the noise they can make when its Uigurs ...... :sadness-abysmal:
Thanks for the response, as I said I honestly dont know much of anything at all, so clarification is helpful.
I don't know anything at all about this situation, but I'm gonna put this stuff out here because it has a radically different take and is coming from people I generally agree with and find insightful:
https://www.breakthroughnews.org/post/why-is-the-us-threatening-sanctions-on-ethiopia
https://www.breakthroughnews.org/post/crisis-in-ethiopia-what-the-media-isn-t-telling-you-about-the-war-in-tigray
https://www.breakthroughnews.org/post/crisis-in-ethiopia-breaking-through-the-propaganda
The fact that the US is threatening sanctions is making me very suspicious, but I don't actually know anything, so I'm not actually interested in arguing. I just want to see people talk about it.
The US is now warning the TLF to stop advancing against the Abiy Ahmed government forces.
The Western media has largely cheered on the TPLF and demonized the Ethiopian government and its allies, with allegations of ethnic cleansing, intentional famine and even genocide. The US has gone so far as to place sanctions on the Ethiopian government, a longtime US ally
what the fuck is this absolutly disconencted , ivory Tower bullshit ... ? You read this now , dont worry its just Massacres on Tigrayen , you will get the "jist" of this war before TPLF desparate succesfully counterattack.. Oh they also Starve .... 5 Million ..
But now they bring War into the neigbouring (the invaders) region... ? And you are all confused ?
Explain from a military standpoint , if you are sieged and starve , what can you do , and does it involve bringing Violence upon the Besiegers ?
fun fact , you know this TPLF member Tedros_Adhanom
