I keep seeing this talking point on :reddit-logo: whenever people complain about manchin, sinema or whatever other rotating villain of the week people are mad at. It's supposed to be some sort of "gotcha" or defense for these neolib ghouls...

It's glib, and it flies in the face of their other favorite response "we can walk and chew gum at the same time".

Do they honestly think people dont know republicans exist? Does it really need to be said that republicans are awful? They're not even confusing progressives and leftists for right wingers anymore.

It's just so lame, and I needed to vent about it. I need to quit going to :reddit-logo:

  • OldSoulHippie [he/him]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    How would you go about explaining this without getting the Le epic "BoTh SiDeS" response though? It's maddening, but for whatever reason, I keep trying. Some of my online radicalization came from comments sections where people like us argued against a brick wall, and me, the passerby read the comments and picked up some new ways of thinking.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Well on one hand, it's true that both sides do not work for what the people want. On most economic/material issues, the people are to the left of Democratic politicians. So even if we had 60 or more Democrats in the Senate, it's unlikely even they would enact legislation that the people really want. So if both parties act the same...

      But even if by some miracle we had a super majority of Democrats, it doesn't matter as the system is so heavily tilted against the working class by design. You can pass all the progressive bills you want but then there's the supreme court to block any and all good things you want to do. Just one example though.

      • OldSoulHippie [he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        Great write-up! But I'll bet libs would just be like "one side is trying to overturn the sacred electoral process and the other isn't. Checkmate Vlad"