https://twitter.com/CPUSA_LA/status/1455272804220293126

https://www.cpusa.org/article/an-upsurge-worth-fighting-for/

  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    "socialist patriotism" and "Bill of Rights socialism" mean the same thing

    Native tribes are each & among them fighting to acquire ancestral lands & rightful territory, and they have been for generations

    CPUSA's motto 70 years ago was "Communism is 20th century Americanism"

    And no, Joe Sims says explicitly that it's Biden who has provided some "Era of Good Feeling" or something

    "One of the reasons the strikes are taking place is that workers feel like they can win. It’s created an atmosphere where labor feels that the administration has their back"

    Was Joe Sims wrong in 2014 or is he wrong now?

    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      “socialist patriotism” and “Bill of Rights socialism” mean the same thing

      No they don't.

      Native tribes are each & among them fighting to acquire ancestral lands & rightful territory, and they have been for generations

      Ok that doesn't answer the question.

      CPUSA’s motto 70 years ago was “Communism is 20th century Americanism”

      70 years ago.

      And no, Joe Sims says explicitly that it’s Biden who has provided some “Era of Good Feeling” or something

      “One of the reasons the strikes are taking place is that workers feel like they can win. It’s created an atmosphere where labor feels that the administration has their back”

      Yeah I think I'd disagree with that, but it's not like it's unambiguously false.

      Was Joe Sims wrong in 2014 or is he wrong now?

      He was wrong in 2014, that's what the word "development" means.

      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Yes they do.

        I don't remember you asking a non-rhetorical or earnest question.

        Yes, and it holds true today. Just as Sims says last year and 7 years ago.

        Yes, it's unambiguously false. It is the pandemic & mass backlash against faulty public health & corporate policy since the start of it

        But there is nothing about "development" here, you're just throwing that in there

        Joe Sims was correct in 2014, and the nonsense about Trump has only muddied the waters

        • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I don’t remember you asking a non-rhetorical or earnest question.

          Yes I suspect that you frequently discard anything that contradicts your dumb bullshit.

          Yes, it’s unambiguously false. It is the pandemic & mass backlash against faulty public health & corporate policy since the start of it

          Lol you watch Jimmy Dore and think that people are striking over vaccine mandates.

          But there is nothing about “development” here, you’re just throwing that in there

          https://hexbear.net/post/150561/comment/1819716

          Joe Sims was correct in 2014, and the nonsense about Trump has only muddied the waters

          Lmao so you're a patriotic socialism guy. Have fun with your stupid bullshit.

          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            So you didn't ask a question

            You don't watch Jimmy Dore and take it on faith that he's someone evil

            Joe Sims is a "patriotic socialism" guy too. That's what "Bill of Rights socialism" is

            • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              You think that union guys switching from Democrat to Republican is a sign of class consciousness. You are an examplar of Jimmy Dore's audience.

              • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                I didn't say it's the most advanced section of class consciousness among workers, I said that there is a class struggle ongoing whether they're a part of a Communist Party or not

                they're not reduced to mindless rabble just because they recognize petty bourgeois Democrats & rad libs as such. I would say it's not a positive tactical or strategic intention of the right, it's thus far more of a failure of progressive & workers' movements to seize on those shifts, which are objective & tied to material deterioration in those areas, not to idealist partisan disputes