Like the amount of half truth and ignored nuance in this piece is staggering.

EDIT: It is even more insane when you consider there is an explicit plan by the US intelligence state to break up and balkanize China. Like they aren't even trying to keep it secret.

Edit2: "non amp version:https://web.archive.org/web/20211102155719/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/us-china-war/620571/" Courtesy of Alcoholicorn

  • carbohydra [des/pair]
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    3 years ago

    China attacks not when it feels confident about the future but when it worries its enemies are closing in.

    maybe stop closing in then

    concern that the Americans would conquer North Korea and eventually use it as a base to attack China

    I wonder why they were concerned about that

    In the expanded Korean War that resulted [because of China]

    this is just straight up genocide denial

    an authoritarian government that courted big business

    I wonder what compelled them to court big business. surely it must have been the "personality quirks of individual leaders"

    JFC the thing just goes on I can't read any further. Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      In the expanded Korean War that resulted [because of China]

      this is just straight up genocide denial

      :powercry-2: "WAA WAA THE SCHEMING DUPLICITOUS ORIENTALS INTERRUPTED OUR GENOCIDE OF THE KOREAN PENINSULA AND PUSHED US BACK TO THE 38TH PARALLEL WAA."

      What special variety of terrible person do you have to be to blame China for "expanding" the Korean war? :visible-disgust:

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      What does "authoritarian" actually mean to these people? Just seeing this word is enough to know that the author has no worthwhile insights.

      • carbohydra [des/pair]
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        3 years ago

        "a political system that is hard for the CIA to manipulate successfully"

        • Jadzia_Dax [she/her]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          see also: every anarchist org. the CIA had memos leaked where they complain that we don’t have leaders they can easily kill lol

          :anarchy:

      • CrimsonSage [any]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        As best as I cant tell, to Americans Authoritarian means "Not allowing for CHOICE." I bold choice because it's the key for American brainwashing. So for example if you had one society that gave guaranteed healthcare, housing, education, and food but it was limited to one type of each service and you HAD to take it, and you had another that didn't guarantee all those things but if you could access it then you had a choice between many or none at all, the second would be less "Authoritarian."

        Also it is in the act of choosing itself that the American ideology places freedom. So if you lived in a society where everyone got to contribute to the planning of national goals and structure of society, but once decided everyone was required to follow it, on one hand and a society where planning and goal setting were out of the hands of the overwhelming majority of people, but then you got to vote between plans set by those who did have the power to make them then the latter would be more "Free."

        It really is the fetishization of choice, that you find a ton of the American ideology.

    • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Seriously. I got to the "an authoritarian government that courted big business" and rolled my eyes hard. Then I looked at how much there was left to fucking read and just gave up, lmao.

    • CrimsonSage [any]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Thats about how far I got. The lecturing tone of someone who knows better was so grotesque I couldn't handle it. MAYBE CHINA FELT THAT WAY AND THEY WERE RIGHT TO!!!

    • Jadzia_Dax [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I love that this person is paid a 6 figure salary to write racist propaganda and we all have to work for minimum wage to serve them treats.

      Every journalist that has been killed during a revolution probably had it coming.