I've always read it as at least a little bit a comment on the Iraq war, but what's it's deal? It's the only anime I can think of that climaxes with a military coup, and its cool that mustang wants to put people on trial for war crimes, but then he gets in power and doesn't do it.

It's also just got a whole plotline about racism, but it feels slightly off? Like minorities are okay if they save your life.

  • camarade [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I've noticed anime series often tend to appear allegorical at first and then either veer into superficiality (which isn't a bad thing in of itself) or fail to deliver anything other than tired pop philosophy platitudes that don't ruffle any feathers.

    FMA in particular seems to fall into the first category. for a while it looked like it was setting amestris up to be some kind of nazi analogy but it turns out demonic forces are pulling the strings and the evil doesn't actually dwell within; the system though not perfect is mostly good. maybe it's just a nice story about brothers fighting with magic.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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        3 years ago

        its like if the illuminati was behind the nazis but it turns out the illuminati was just one really ancient magic person who invented feudalism with WWII being his master plan

      • camaron28 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I mean, his clique involves like 90% of the upper members of the military. Of course the state is going to change.

        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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          3 years ago

          that means the roster will change, not the job titles and functions, their point was the state could function as it had just with other people in charge, so it didn't NEED father to function

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      I’ve noticed anime series often tend to appear allegorical at first and then either veer into superficiality (which isn’t a bad thing in of itself) or fail to deliver anything other than tired pop philosophy platitudes that don’t ruffle any feathers.

      You have to consider anime are mostly manga and light novels adaptations and the choice very heavily influenced by popularity and you guessed it popularity among certain demographics is incredibly simple to define.

      How do you write something with a deep message about our world that isn't just "Japan society sucks, you suck because you are all apathetic cowards that don't want to organize or care about politics, also you have incredibly deep rooted problems with authority and conforming with the status quo, [add another 20 criticisms here]"?

      You can't write that without being cancelled, parody and cynicism is fine and there are many examples of it, but actual political messaging is never going to get through the filters. Really remember that manga specificaly have to go through a filter, before you even get published you have to go to the magazines and basicaly pitch your series with a first draft(forgot the proper name).

      Basicaly while I am sure many Japanese know all the problems but there is a huge barrier to voicing a message that reaches a large audience.

      And the whole light novel/doujinshi side of things is basically a lottery and most people would rather gamble on what is likely a winning choice(i.e write a popular genre).

      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        How do you write something with a deep message about our world that isn’t just “Japan society sucks, you suck because you are all apathetic cowards that don’t want to organize or care about politics, also you have incredibly deep rooted problems with authority and conforming with the status quo, [add another 20 criticisms here]”?

        Hideaki Anno has been saying similar stuff about his fans for decades now, yet most people are still saying

        :so-true: cool robots and sexualized 14 year olds!

        • Gosplan14 [any]
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          3 years ago

          Same for Tomino's stuff [though at least he didn't really engage in sexualization of his characters].

          Oshii mostly avoided this fate though, by being very mask off when he gets around to being political.

      • camarade [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        How do you write something with a deep message about our world that isn’t just “Japan society sucks, you suck because you are all apathetic cowards that don’t want to organize or care about politics, also you have incredibly deep rooted problems with authority and conforming with the status quo, [add another 20 criticisms here]”?

        I agree with most of your post but this looks to me like a failure of imagination. the human condition is vast and can be explored without attacking the audience.