I have never understood how a dishwasher saves time since you've still got to rinse it before. I am deeply skeptical of these machines
Yes absolutely. It saves both water and energy. The dishwasher reuses the same water and heat. Make sure you're using the pre-wash detergent properly. All you've got to do before you put stuff in the dishwasher is dump all the loose stuff in the trash, you can use a fork or paper towel instead of water if you're concerned about that, no scrubbing at all. You may need to clean the filter (which is probably disgusting) as well.
In fact, watch this 30 minute video about dishwashers that really gets into how they work (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04). There's also a sequel about the different types of detergents.
My parents do washing up with a bowl of water in the sink, rather than blasting the tap like I do. I’m guessing that’s even more efficient than a machine
At that point you would need to specifically compare your dishwasher vs your parents' technique. I would guess they would still fall behind higher efficiency dishwashers but would beat the bottom of the barrel ones. I think the higher capacity, insulation, and detergent efficiency of the machine would still give it the win overall.
Because dishwashers only use two "fills" of a few liters of water per cycle. Running your tap full-blast for 5 minutes will likely waste more water. Commercial grade dish basins are a bit better if you use them right, but still take more water to fill than a dishwasher.
Also a properly functioning dishwasher shouldn't require a hand-rinse if it's working correctly. Yeah, old & worn units can suck sometimes, but that's usually a problem with calcified pipes cutting the pressure to the unit, or you're not putting detergent in both of the little cups.
Because dishwashers only use two “fills” of a few liters of water per cycle. Running your tap full-blast for 5 minutes will likely waste more water.
you don't have to do that tho.
A good high end dishwasher does not require rinsing beforehand. It generates enough water pressure to remove all particulates. I have had the fortune of using such a device and it was glorious.
You're still supposed to scrape/wipe the loose shit into the trash tho so it doesn't clog the filter as quickly
Growing up poor as shit this was never a problem. Licking your plate clean isn't just an expression :doomjak:
Seems like a problem people who can afford dishwashing machines have.
Are you outside of the us by chance? I’ve lived in some shitholes and they usually still had a dishwasher, not always washer and dryers but dishwashers have always been kind of a given in my area.
Some American dishwashers have built-in garbage disposals. Anything less than chicken bones will be destroyed.
the only dishwashers that require pre-washing are 20-30 years old and should be replaced
These dilapidated appliances are just another reason why the landlords are overdue for their comeuppance. :mao-aggro-shining:
(My dishwasher fucking sucks)
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if you get one that is too expensive and otherwise would be handwashing dishes like a little kid blasting water at full stream, yes.
most Americans don't know how to handwash dishes and use tons of water to do it, so of course the "solution" is a major appliance that they don't know how to maintain or service, which increasingly has shorter life cycles.
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If you feel the need to rinse every dish before it goes into the washer... what are you eating?
I've never used a dishwasher I just thought you had to rinse them beforehand
Like, if there's caked on stuff or its really dry, sure. But usually, if you're running the washer every night and not putting a casserole dish with an inch of burned cheese in the bottom, it should work fine.
You don't actually need to knock off the caked on dry stuff normally, that's what the dishwasher's pre-rinse is for. Just put powder or gel in both of the little dishes and it will work.
My experiences tell me otherwise.
I also have a 10+ year old machine that is fed unsoftened well water and, with money being tight, the few bucks a week to dump white vinegar to even out the PH during washes isn't always feasible.
Also, my wife will let things like oatmeal residue sit and harden like glue to things, requiring extra effort to clean up sometimes.
I'd also recommend trying to remove the filter trap and clean it manually every so often. And maybe run vinegar and then afterwards baking soda if money becomes a bit less tight. Neither is really helping the pH as the primary goal, it's about breaking down the mineral buildup inside.
Also, run a cycle on sanitize every month or so if your dishwasher has that. It runs hotter and longer, and some dishwashers are made to run that cycle regularly for self-cleaning purposes.
Yeah, definitely having well water, especially unsoftened and untreated, is going to have pretty notable effects on the water pressure in that there's probably some buildup in the pipes. Silicates and mineral build up are the main reason that dishwashers lose effectiveness. You can absolutely have a 40 year old machine that works well and cleans every dish in every load on soft, treated water, or a 3 year old machine that is absolutely fucking unusable no matter how many times you repeat the load.
Some dishwashers will also have a little salt compartment which is used to recharge the ion-exchange water softeners that are built into those dishwashers. This is more common in Europe, but I've used multiple dishwashers in the US and Canada that did have them as well. This may be something to check for, just in case yours has it.
I know I personally have a bad habit of using a lot of water when handwashing.
I prerinse everything cuz my dishwasher sucks. Everything itt should have a big fat *
