https://apnews.com/article/climate-donald-trump-joe-biden-united-nations-barack-obama-33aacb939b5ee0b8aa1add7688cb267a

America is the worst

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Uhh... Let's be clear

    Russia and China, they, uh, have not had several towns ban the use of plastic bags at their grocery stores, which as we all know, is the highest form of caring about the environment

  • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    “You wouldn’t always know it ,but it went up every year I was president,” he said to applause. “That whole, suddenly America’s like the biggest oil producer and the biggest gas that was me, people.”

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      You could plausibly argue that Obama and Biden have literally worst environmental record of any government officials in the history of the world.

      • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Especially in light of climate change now acknowledged as fact.

        • Express [any,none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          When hasn’t it been when your supposed to be the understander above the unwashed masses?

          • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The Pentagon was publishing reports about how climate change would force them to make changes such as base locations as well as general geopolitical destabilization etc. I remember my dumb lib ass was like "that'll convince the Republicans to get their heads out of their asses, da troops are saying climate change is real!"

            Stupid lib hopes and dreams made me into the bitter cynical bastard I am.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        I think this undersells the impact Bush's Iraq War had on the climate. Not to mention the $25k credit for Hummers or the way his administration aggressively undercut mass transit.

        But yeah. Race To The Bottom.

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Wasn't China the only country to meet the international climate goals?

  • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Obama: "I showed how seriously I took the issue and I demonstrated a sense of urgency by giving speeches that benefited my legacy. But I didn't do anything other than getting a bunch of nations to sign a gentleman's agreement. Still - I've gotta ask - could I have a second Nobel Peace Prize?..."

  • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Reminder that China is a net climate creditor.

    https://sci-hubtw.hkvisa.net/10.1016/S2542-5196(20)30196-0

      • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Good. It means that they've emitted less than their "fair share" within the emissions threshold for climate change, meaning that they've effectively credited carbon "space" in the atmosphere to over-emitting countries like the US. Their relative lack of emissions has soaked up some of the excess emissions (beyond their "fair share") of the imperial core nations. Like, if you divide up the total amount of sustainable emissions prior to this point by global population, their per capita emissions have been less than they could have been without causing climate change. This is true of the whole global south, but contrary to claims made by Western imperialists like the US, it is also true of China.

        The implication of this is that imperialist nations like the US:

        1. bear the brunt of the responsibility for cutting emissions, and
        2. owe creditor countries like China for the carbon debt they've accrued

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_debt