The idea that Biden winning would cause things to marginally get better and people forget they’re in a shithole exists solely in your imagination.
If Biden wins, the mass unemployment will not magically go away. The virus will not magically go away. The GDP will not magically recover. People will still be fed up. A lot needs to happen and Biden already showed he’s not willing to change the status quo. Everything that Biden is lacking Trump is nonexistent if not being an active detriment. People have a better chance of successfully revolting under Biden than under Trump.
you're arguing that the problems will still exist if biden is elected and that people will blame dems for it because they're the only ones left to blame. this isn't how it will work. they'll continue the narrative that it was all leftover from trump and biden is just dealing with his shit, the same way that trump said to his stupid followers about obama. it's a fucking cycle. blame the last guy, continue to get nothing done.
No, they’re not going to blame Biden for Trump’s failings. They’re going to blame Biden for refusing to improve things with his ineffective policies. Trump doesn’t get off Scott free. Biden digs himself in a hole for being the neolib he is.
The difference is that much of Trump’s blaming of Obama was objectively false. Biden doesn’t have to blame anybody. People will simply watch Biden’s policies in action. (Much like watching Obama’s policies in action.) It’s not that difficult.
they're not going to blame biden at all. they're going to go back to being complaisant and the media will be singing the tune that 'at least he's not trump.' all the while the US will continue to drift right slowly.
if trump wins, everything continues to get worse and worse and people actually start to pay attention.
the entire notion you're putting out there just feeds into perpetuating cycle of lesser evilism, even if that's not your intention.
My intention is not lesser evilism, just what is plausible. The media is not monolithic even though it appears so. The facts that outlets such as InfoWars, and enough extreme right-wing notions that created this current cult in office is proof that the media can no longer control the narrative as much as they want. I would have fully agreed with you 10 years ago, but the mass availability of information has become exponentially greater.
Yes, if Trump wins people do pay attention. My issue with that is, assuming a proper revolution gets underway, any number of fail-conditions on that path will result in an American Theocratic Facist state on a scale you cannot remotely convince me compares to the shell of which is in place today.
I don’t see this as lesser evilism. I see this as pragmatism in two hypothetical scenarios.
The idea that Biden winning would cause things to marginally get better and people forget they’re in a shithole exists solely in your imagination.
If Biden wins, the mass unemployment will not magically go away. The virus will not magically go away. The GDP will not magically recover. People will still be fed up. A lot needs to happen and Biden already showed he’s not willing to change the status quo. Everything that Biden is lacking Trump is nonexistent if not being an active detriment. People have a better chance of successfully revolting under Biden than under Trump.
it doesn't matter if he changes anything if the media just stops showing it - which is exactly what's going to happen.
The media is no longer all-powerful thankfully. Did you forget the internet exists, like where we are right now?
oh yes, because the internet isn't completely astroturfed and controlled too. that's why we're still on reddit right?
Yes. I don't know what criticism you are trying to make here.
you're arguing that the problems will still exist if biden is elected and that people will blame dems for it because they're the only ones left to blame. this isn't how it will work. they'll continue the narrative that it was all leftover from trump and biden is just dealing with his shit, the same way that trump said to his stupid followers about obama. it's a fucking cycle. blame the last guy, continue to get nothing done.
No, they’re not going to blame Biden for Trump’s failings. They’re going to blame Biden for refusing to improve things with his ineffective policies. Trump doesn’t get off Scott free. Biden digs himself in a hole for being the neolib he is.
The difference is that much of Trump’s blaming of Obama was objectively false. Biden doesn’t have to blame anybody. People will simply watch Biden’s policies in action. (Much like watching Obama’s policies in action.) It’s not that difficult.
they're not going to blame biden at all. they're going to go back to being complaisant and the media will be singing the tune that 'at least he's not trump.' all the while the US will continue to drift right slowly.
if trump wins, everything continues to get worse and worse and people actually start to pay attention.
the entire notion you're putting out there just feeds into perpetuating cycle of lesser evilism, even if that's not your intention.
My intention is not lesser evilism, just what is plausible. The media is not monolithic even though it appears so. The facts that outlets such as InfoWars, and enough extreme right-wing notions that created this current cult in office is proof that the media can no longer control the narrative as much as they want. I would have fully agreed with you 10 years ago, but the mass availability of information has become exponentially greater.
Yes, if Trump wins people do pay attention. My issue with that is, assuming a proper revolution gets underway, any number of fail-conditions on that path will result in an American Theocratic Facist state on a scale you cannot remotely convince me compares to the shell of which is in place today.
I don’t see this as lesser evilism. I see this as pragmatism in two hypothetical scenarios.