I just feel weird about giving money to someone who will intentionally and knowingly use that money to materially harm me.

          • Sushi_Desires
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            3 years ago

            I want to follow up on this comment for prospective buyers -- that Holosun is also widely seen as having extremely good quality for the money. Usually going cheap on an optic is not a good idea, but Holosun have been shaking things up with their offerings. E.g. the 407c/507c is a direct competitor to the Trijicon RMR which is considered the gold standard pistol optics (even uses the same mounting and recoil lug footprint). Trijicon actually filed a suit against Holosun, citing something about the brightness buttons (thus the "507C-X2" with different button layout), but I think it was really motivated by Holosun biting into their market share.

    • a_maoist_quetzal [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      As far as I know non-western manufactured weapons are treated the same as any others except they're often used so you sometimes have to do a transfer of ownership or some kind of consignment arrangement instead of just buying them directly from a dealer. Idk about gun shows, just check your local laws

    • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
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      3 years ago

      I think Remington was to be sold to the Navajo Nation, but I'm not sure what's currently happening with that. If true, it seems like it would be a good option vs other manufacturers, unless there's something problematic I'm missing.

  • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Locate your local Socialist Rifle Association and ask them what the options are.

    The best you'll probably find will be some shitlib manufacturers.

      • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If you're in Canada, buy norinco weapons, plenty of old Chinese SKS for 300 dollars and the type 97 is the cheapest 5.56 semi auto that doesn't suck. You'll need an RPAL for pistols but tokarevs and p226 clones are even cheaper.

          • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Literally every gun shop lol. I don't want to list my local gunstores because opsec (even though the feds probably know if they actually cared) but you should be able to find them just about at any store that doesn't focus on antiques only. And yeah they're everywhere and not banned (yet, rip norinco m14 clone that was better than the Springfield version in every way).

  • buh [she/her]
    ·
    3 years ago

    You can't

    The closet you can get to that is buying secondhand from soneone you know and trust

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      I definitely want to get into printed guns, it's just a little daunting to try to make decisions, like, what's a good printer that actually works out of the box, good filament, decent metal parts, etc.

      • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
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        3 years ago

        Not sure about the political alignment of all these channels, but there's a lot of good content on youtube for that. Print Shoot Repeat is probably my current favorite, and has a lot of good general info. Hoffman Tactical has more detailed info on the actual printing and assembly, including filaments, techniques, etc. There's also a lot of pretty great general 3D printing on youtube. CNC Kitchen and Thomas Sanladerer are my 2 faves.

        Related, we should discuss this kind of stuff on /c/diy more. That comm doesn't get enough love and would be perfect for this kind of thing.

  • L183R4L [any]
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    3 years ago

    You could look into the red right hand rifle syndicate https://www.redrighthandriflesyndicate.com. They offer decent prices on firearms and ammunition. They're still weapons manufactured by chud companies because that is the nature of the market unfortunately, but at least the middleman isn't a chud.

  • JackalopeEnthusiast [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    How much harm is a chud going to cause with the $500 you gave them to arm yourself?

    I'd say you win on that exchange.

  • a_maoist_quetzal [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    There's an old thread somewhere with 3d printing files for ar-15 lowers. The pattern includes some ideologically confused side plates. Oh well, of course libertarians would be the ones to design such a thing

  • effervescent [they/them]
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    3 years ago
    1. Gain access to CNC machine
    2. Learn how to use it
    3. Machine your own parts
    4. Rinse and repeat
    5. Arm and train your affinity group and local homeless population
  • Sushi_Desires
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    3 years ago

    These thousand pikes guys show up occasionally in lefty gun discords, but I'm not sure if they have been fully vetted as it were https://www.thousand-pikes-arsenal.com/