also why start with happiness or pleasure, if there is one thing the Stoics can teach us is that even Epicurianism isn't fail safe and we should really consider our own nature as social animals first, this doesn't mean serving for the death machine but taking seriously that we only thrive as an instrumental part of a greater whole, not seeking happiness and pleasure (also those are kinda bourgeois and liberal but that's for another day)
also why start with happiness or pleasure, if there is one thing the Stoics can teach us is that even Epicurianism isn't fail safe and we should really consider our own nature as social animals first, this doesn't mean serving for the death machine but taking seriously that we only thrive as an instrumental part of a greater whole, not seeking happiness and pleasure (also those are kinda bourgeois and liberal but that's for another day)