discuss.

    • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      this was my original thought as well.

      I think unfortunately things like car racing can also get pretty fashy. Nascar treads a line sometimes between being for the people, but also just churning out the most deranged shit alive.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This is the correct answer. Everyone plays football but there's only one country in the world that plays football.

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Fighting and Fighting.

    It is a dialectic peocess of self improvement and negation against another. it takes an entire gym to produce a fighter. Figters are by turn only as good as their support system and their support system fueled by the didication to create thing by people unalienated from their labor. Peopel from all cultures and all backgrounds can enjoy it with the level of resources and strength available to them.

    Conversely it is about forcefully imposing your will on the body of another person, useually to make money.

    To further the dialectic, that also fits with the theme of revolution being authoritarian

    • jabrd [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The Soviet Union produced some of the greatest martial artists of our lifetime. The former Soviet states still turn them out at the highest level

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    3 years ago

    Running is the most proletarian — zero equipment, zero space requirements.

    F1 or dressage are probably the most bourgeois, as others have said.

    However for most communist and most fascist, soccer (football) is most communist because of its accessibility and worldwide popularity (obviously discounting FIFA and league management).

    Most fascist is probably hockey — specifically limited to wealthy and/or cold weather areas, requires a lot of special equipment, and involves regularly stopping the game to beat the shit out of your opponents because you're :frothingfash:

    • fed [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      i thought this was a joke for a second lol

      listen to pen pals -American football

      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Wow, i did not know that, that's really cool. I was thinking more of all the various Formulas which started as a pissing contest between bored aristocrats and remains closed-off to most people except for the fabulously rich. It's a shame because i love the technical and team aspect of them, and the drivers are truly talented people who have worked extremely hard to push themselves to almost superhuman levels.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah it's largely dominated by nepotism and bourgeois failsons nowadays but it wasn't always this way.

      • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        yeah thats the shame that it's become so chud-y in many ways. just very fast advertisements.

  • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    the fashy ones are basically any of the hyper individualized or very expensive.

    most commie: that turkish or persian oil wrestling

    :panting:

  • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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    3 years ago

    The most fascist sport is probably American football because everyone had a role to play and there's extensive class collaboration but also very clearly defined hierarchies - some players in an American football game literally are not allowed to touch the ball. Certain positions are even protected from being assaulted such as the QB.

    Combat sports are practically feudalist, with boxing/MMA gyms being like knightly orders of the middle ages.

    Most communist is either baseball or football. Both have less defined roles and a general equality between players - anyone can score a goal or hit a home run even if some players are better at hitting or striking than others. Anyone can get a batter out or block an opponent's shot, and often times it's a team effort on defense.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    3 years ago

    Kabaddi deserves a mention for the first category. Zero equipment used, you play with your body. Played as a team and teammates are absolutely indispensable for every maneuver or play. Alternating roles of teams, and your team's immediate objective (avoid contact or make contact) changes instantly. As a game of stamina there is an internal struggle as well as an external one.

    For the second category I don't think anything beats American football. Hyper commercialized, direct physical confrontation, star status of a few players with most of the rest playing subordinate roles, really destructive to the body and it almost celebrates this. The odd thing here is that rugby doesn't even really fit the category, with its continuous gameplay, less dangerous contact, and plays that are a string of everyone's actions as equals.