https://mobile.twitter.com/i_tertu/status/1456521994288107525

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    A lot of kids feel this way before they gain experience and read up a bit more.

    The "we both want freedom and that's what's important" brainworm is strong and can take time to excise.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Why it's always "freedom", and not "not dying of poor"?

      • CoconutOctopus [it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Because it's easier to swim perpendicular to the propaganda you've absorbed your whole life than to swim directly against it.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Because, in general, they are not dying of poor and so their attraction to socialism comes from conditions of alienation because their comfortable social strata is being proletarianised and it makes them feel icky.

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          What do you mean?

          Anyways, in a lot of cases, freedom to do what? Be queer? Yeah a lot of places even in the empire core still sucks big time in that regard. Drugs? Not like a big priority but ok. What else? What policies do they want?

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            (Please note I was too poor growing up to be one of these, but I did hang out with a lot of them, and they were basically what the left side of USENET was. Also I'm not sure this response is as fully formed as it should be, so critique is appreciated.)

            Well, id say theyre idealist, not materialist in their conception. So aside from "Workers Councils!" And "Republic of Letters!" Actual policy is vague.

            They've likely been exposed to some kind of left ideology, so basically they want a world where traditional Academic/Professional strata labour and cultural relations exist for everyone.

            It very much is the left wing mirror of the tech bro right-libertarian grindset.

            This isn't incompatible with Socialism, but it's coming from a different place than the radicalising privation of the actual poor, or class traitorism via outrage at moral injustice from the richest strata.

            Since traditional professional relations are rapidly disappearing, they radicalise and gravitate to "libertarian left" positions because they think they can transplant the freedom of academia everywhere.