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Anarcho-communists who go on and on about hating M-Ls more than the right are fucking sus as fuck.
Literally never had an issue with M-Ls even though I don’t agree with you all on everything. If you don’t behave like a twat constantly there’s absolutely no reason for the sheer amount of vitriol they have. I’m dating an M-L and shockingly I’ve never once thought of allying with fascists against her.
There are far too many an-coms who suck and they all have twitter accounts.
There are far too many an-coms who suck and they all have twitter accounts.
I think it's because radlibs love to appropriate radical aesthetics while keeping their politics trash, but "communist" is seen as too tainted a label. So they flock to anarchist as the label (not the politics).
People just pick labels at random and say that that's what they are. Not like me, a council-communo-syndical Leninist (with American characteristics).
Eh, guy who thinks anarchism and anarcho-capitalism are compatible has such a loose grip on the concept that it's barely a bad anarchist take.
But lets be honest, the magnitude of bad anarchist takes can’t all be coming from
:yea: I got banned from almost every anarchist space just for getting annoyed at obvious fed posting. And everyone in the vaguely left subs just thinks I'm a tankie. Like jesus christ motherfuckers touch grass and do some organizing, anarchist praxis is the most accessible form of praxis one can do in the US and in the short term the most necessary.
At least I've been working on dragging r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM in a better direction
I feel like I have to tread more lightly in Antiwork but I'm trying to bring folks around to reading some good debrainworming stuff like Black Shirts and Reds where I can.
I'm pretty sure any anarchist that does direct action is too busy doing that to, idk, call anyone who doesn't buy the bullshit astroturfed Cuba protests a tankie on Twitter all day.
Yep the literal anarchist crust punk kids that went and fought with cops for fucking up the FNB free kitchen in my area had no clue that was even happening. When I told some of them none of them were like "well you know the cuban government is authoritarian too" they were just as pissed as any of us about the US starving them with sanctions and inciting violence.
Yesterday I had to explain to one such anarchist that yes, actually, Cuba good even if you're an anarchist and not an ML, and posting images of Xi as Winnie the pooh is in fact, racist.
Like jesus christ motherfuckers touch grass and do some organizing, anarchist praxis is the most accessible form of praxis one can do in the US and in the short term the most necessary.
For real. I'm an ML and have been doing most of my IRL organizing with anarchists, both because they're just the people who are around in my area and because of what you say- their praxis is the praxis our community needs right now.
I think it's straight up just an ancap pretending to be an anarchist, he keeps insisting that capitalism is good and everything will just work out essentially. Not even doing a good job pretending to be an anarchist, he keeps referring to "altruism". Anarchist who wants to maintain capitalism and wants the holes filled by charity is just too dumb to be believable.
Or Haz/InfraRed. Or the Austin Red Guard.
There's dipshit grifters and feds claiming all sorts of tendencies
I thought Austin Red Guard were feds pretending to be Maoist Third Worldists or something
yeah austin red guard is so fed when there are government shutdowns they shut down too, I doubt there's any ancaps involved just informants and undercovers
There was a bunch of people defending Pol Pot on Twitter the other day so there's a fun time to be had there. Gonzalists too, though I've met one or two of those that like his theory but think he's a shit.
Haz and all the "patriot socialists" are prime examples along with the Austin Red Guard etc.
Fuck off this is even worse sectarian baiting than the phenomenon you're talking about.
I think there's really a point to be had here. It's not that there are a lot of "bad anarchists" but in the US especially and english speaking countries in general it's the more accessible entry point to the left, so you get a disproportionate number of people who have adopted it out of a desire to find their footing in the left but decades of being submerged in anti-communist propaganda puts all these thought terminating obstacles in the way of for example accepting that dialectical materialism is a useful tool for analysis or that there's a lot to be learned from Maoism and mass line tactics that overlaps with anarchism.
There's also that the superficial understanding of anarchism=freedom is too similar to the American ideology. It means that people can become anarchists without ever doing much self-criticism or examining their own biases.
Yeah that was a hurdle I got over mostly thanks of being exposed to the very broad diversity of takes on the old sub. I'm still an anarchist in many of my ideals, I grew up around a bunch of pot farmers old radical hippies and weird anarchist preppers so it's deeply embedded in my ideology. But I can also recognize that there is use value in all sorts of theory and praxis and I know who my comrades are.
There's been a much higher frequency of "anarchists" having these dogshit takes across the internet at large. You can't hardly critique American foreign policy without getting called an evil tankie these days.
There's much more internet anarchists then internet Marxists I'm pretty confident, at least on English social media.
Nobody that actually leaves their house says this.
When this person meets the Proud Boys or any other fascist paramilitary in person at a protest line and has to fight them down the line their stupid attitude will change immediately to adoring literally anyone alongside them. When push comes to shove realising who will put themselves on the line for your physical safety puts everything into perspective.
Idk Bookchin said the same thing repeatedly pretty openly. And he is a huge influence to at least a bunch of orgs and leftists that do leave their house so its not so implausible to find actualy realized positions like this in the general ideological family of his. Yeah when they are faced with a proud boy with some MLs in their side of the protest 10 meters to the right it doesnt matter and they probably dont live by this mindset but again, the mindset existing and persisting in general non "push comes to shove" organizing and times , even in just conversations , is still very negative and damaging
A lot of kids feel this way before they gain experience and read up a bit more.
The "we both want freedom and that's what's important" brainworm is strong and can take time to excise.
Because it's easier to swim perpendicular to the propaganda you've absorbed your whole life than to swim directly against it.
Because, in general, they are not dying of poor and so their attraction to socialism comes from conditions of alienation because their comfortable social strata is being proletarianised and it makes them feel icky.
What do you mean?
Anyways, in a lot of cases, freedom to do what? Be queer? Yeah a lot of places even in the empire core still sucks big time in that regard. Drugs? Not like a big priority but ok. What else? What policies do they want?
(Please note I was too poor growing up to be one of these, but I did hang out with a lot of them, and they were basically what the left side of USENET was. Also I'm not sure this response is as fully formed as it should be, so critique is appreciated.)
Well, id say theyre idealist, not materialist in their conception. So aside from "Workers Councils!" And "Republic of Letters!" Actual policy is vague.
They've likely been exposed to some kind of left ideology, so basically they want a world where traditional Academic/Professional strata labour and cultural relations exist for everyone.
It very much is the left wing mirror of the tech bro right-libertarian grindset.
This isn't incompatible with Socialism, but it's coming from a different place than the radicalising privation of the actual poor, or class traitorism via outrage at moral injustice from the richest strata.
Since traditional professional relations are rapidly disappearing, they radicalise and gravitate to "libertarian left" positions because they think they can transplant the freedom of academia everywhere.
Sitting here wondering why we're even at work on an expired contract and if we're even going to get paid this week being literally so fucking pissed about potential scabs I can't see straight really puts this online nonsense into perspective for me
Translation: I am [bored online] and I’d rather [start a fight] than [keep being bored]
I honestly know people like this. I don't think they're fascists, they're just libertarian liberals without realizing it
