The entire thread is :chefs-kiss: but here’s the first tweet.
I feel like Ive never seen or heard any dickhead who says shit like this actually make attempts to change the minds of those who are bigoted.
Its not blanket wrong to try and bring people with reactionary social beliefs into the left, but it absolutely must be paired with some form of consistent and clear education on minority rights and causes and if this is rejected, that person also has to be rejected from your movement and organizations.
Bigots and those targeted by bigotry can't coexist in a movement, and only one of these sides can change what they are, this is extremely obvious and you either choose to have constant burnout within the minority groups leading to them leaving, or you choose to risk pushing away bigots while converting some amount of them to comrades that can actually exist in the movement without causing harm.
Also it cant fall on the minority groups themselves to educate, thats far too large and tiresome a task and it just leads to shitty groups criticising the minorities in their org for "Only doing LGBTQ activism" or some shit, this is literally something I have heard in person leveled at Trans people in an org I was only briefly part of, for obvious reasons.
I say to people "culture war bullshit doesn't matter" and what i mean when i say that is that some culture wars are indeed totally meaningless, like CRT, but for others - usually the big ones like LGBT rights, women's liberation, abortion, BLM, etc - on these one side is definitively the correct line and there is zero need for any further "debate".
This shouldn't be difficult for so-called "communists" to understand.
The anti-CRT agenda is still a submarine for gaslighting black rights activists and torpedoing white supremacy into schools.
my culture war issues matter; your cultural issues (kids learning or not learning the racial history of the united states) are spooks
okay dude.
I think what he meant was that the culture war over crt is meaningless in that the people most engaged have no idea what it is they are opposing. But that's being charitable and he should fix his wording because it is an important issue.
You don't need to know what you're doing to create political groundswell for someone who does.
more that things won;t be fized either way by CRT, as americans have proven we will not learn anything even when explicitly taught.
Its this, the other example i thought of later was the war over "cancel culture". Both matter to the same extent.
People who whine about "CRT" cast a net so wide literally any modern history on race inthe USA counts as "critical race theory". Just like how"cancel culture" is just people with actual power and influence whinging about people yelling at them on Twitter for their dogshit takes
Judging by how many cars I've seen with both BLM and thin blue line on them, yes, absolutely
how many cars I’ve seen with both BLM and thin blue line on them
America breaks my brain.
All of those are materially important questions, but they're relegated to the "culture war" by virtue of the fact that 90% of movement on them is purely symbolic, and doesn't actually change the status quo. They're presented as critical sites of conflict, but without a revolutionary movement of the working class, they're largely closed and settled, with no way for us to actually effect them.
I'm out of the loop on this, did Fetishes get banned for saying shit like this?
He did the "not all concentration camp guards" in here and then went to the discord to say that "we need to tolerate transphobia if we want socialism"
Love to think that we're too cool for that TERF.
Like he had a mediocre bit for the last few months the sub existed, 'reserved' his username here but just hung out on twitter after the sub was nuked. But then HAD to post here despite our unapologetic anti-TERF stance.
Like why even show up here? The only explanation is that this is a cool place to be
The more and more I see and learn about Maupin, the more he seems like the Dave Rubin of the left.
My initial thought was "Tucker Carlson" but that seemed like it would be giving him too much....not 'credit,' but well...credit.
Yeah Tucker Carlson is worryingly popular and actually brings more people to the Right. I don’t think Maupin can compete.
No he's just a really silly conservative that prides himself on having "high level ideas." He never really got very big, but he still plugs away at it, kinda like Maupin. It's really hard to explain if you're not familiar with Rubin, but idk....Maupin just kinda has the same vibe.
Should you choose to expose yourself to Rubin, I'd definitely find a clip of Hasan Piker, The Serfs, Thought Slime, or BadEmpanada dunking on him.
Isn't Rubin the guy who tried to whitewash Ben Shapiro by saying "You wouldn't have a problem having dinner with me and my husband" and Shapino answers with some homophobic shit like "Well, as long as its not like a gay party" ?
He used to pretend to be, but he's since dropped that.
I used to live on a farm with Dave's in-laws, and one time he came to visit us for a couple weeks. He seemed really surprised that a commie like me was into guns, talked me up in one of his video (about how "you can't please everyone"), and kept using me as an example in twitter arguments back when he supported trans people in the military.
I guess he's changed his mind about trans people though.
Knew his husband's family a lot better, but I met him once yeah. Terrible Yoda impression.
https://youtu.be/qTPCI_yF1uQ here's a vid from back when he was still claiming to be a liberal. The other anecdote about the self-sufficient farmer who supports safety nets? Completely made up.
:back-to-me-shining: "Working-class consciousness cannot be genuine political consciousness unless the workers are trained to respond to all cases of tyranny, oppression, violence, and abuse, no matter what class is affected."
Yes, just like the famous white only unions which were extremely successful because non-white people would have totally wanted to strike for the benefit of a group that won't extend any rights to them.
Maupin has ties to a European neo-nazi media company that organized a meeting between him and Aleksandr Dugin, he is a grifter at best.
Wasn't it worse than that? Like, didn't he co-chair a conference Dugan held, and Maupin has remained buddy buddy with him?
I remember someone dissecting that whole interaction, yeah. Dude is just a dumpster fire with communist aesthetics.
You can be a socialist and have a philosophical opposition to abortion. But I don't think you can support the criminalization of abortion and still have a coherent belief about equal rights for all.
what a whack comparison. even from a very right wing view, abortion is seen as murder and gay marriage is seen as an affront to god, like many things are. two different classes of things.
tfw you eschew every day "culture war" discourse as designed to distract from worker solidarity and material analysis BUT also insist everyone must accept the bien pensant liberal position on every issue of the culture war
really makes you think
For anyone too lazy to click the link: it's when you move a pawn two spaces but it moves through a space an opposing pawn threatens, and then the opposing pawn captures it as if it had only moved one space.
okay but i bristle against anyone making my posts (more) intelligible
This is all I know about that dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZTMfsrNXE
It's absurd that they think this is somehow the approach that prioritizes class struggle. How much solidarity can there be between workers if one supports the oppression of another? How can those marginalized workers think of themselves first as workers if their supposed comrades keep reinforcing their identity?
