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  • lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    No but like, using "-punk" as a suffix denotes an aesthetic that is based on imagining a society built around a core aspect, generally an energy source. Like, steampunk is all cooper and big buttons, dieselpunk is all dark steel and plastics, and solarpunk is contemporary utopian urban design with a lot of green space

    The relationship to the anarchist punk movement is almost nonexistent remote

    If I'm not mistaken btw

    Edit : it comes from "cyberpunk" which definitely has punk vibes

    • AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      dieselpunk is all dark steel and plastics,

      I had never heard of this and now all I can think is who the hell conceived of a world even more dependent on petrol. Why bother, just go outside and take pictures.

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        11 months ago

        Dieselpunk is literally a fascist aesthetic derived primarily from the third reich. Like the primary examples of dieselpunk art are the more recent Wolfenstein games. It's literally just fascist tank worship.

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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          11 months ago

          Like the primary examples of dieselpunk art are the more recent Wolfenstein games

          I enjoyed the ones I've played so far, but have some real mixed feelings on the setting. In a vacuum there's nothing wrong with an alt-history world like that, but since it isnt in a vacuum, i hate how it buys into and therefore promotes the idea of Nazi scientific superiority and "superweapons" and over inflated sense of the wehrmachts power. It also completely erases the Soviet Union obviously. I don't remember but it probably puts forth human wave theory as why they lost

              • Smeagolicious [they/them]
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                11 months ago

                Grace is cool as hell and she got more hate than the actual nazis or the abusive father figure. Stay mad anti-cracker-aktion gamers

                • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  11 months ago

                  Actually saw some real freeze-gamer brained people saying "yeah B.J.'s father is terrible, but it turned B.J. into the ultimate Nazi killer so that's good." The gamers have never been alright but damn

          • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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            11 months ago

            If I recall correctly, the soviet government surrendered after getting nuked

            It's on a newspaper snippet in the HQ in the first game

            • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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              11 months ago

              Oh cool, that's a way better way to write that happening. Glad to be wrong on that. It's been a while since I played The New Order

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        Wehraboos. Nearly all of dieselpunk works i seen is glorification of either straight up nazism, or the american roots of nazism or the postapo evolution of nazism.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Most of those are just derivatives of "cyberpunk", which is very much connected to the anarchist association of punk because it's about the cyber-lumpenproletariat and such