Stuff like "stupid, idiot, moron, dumb," you know the ones. If you’re insulting someone for their shitty garbage beliefs and all you can manage to come up with is ways to insult their intelligence, appearance, or other aspect about them that has nothing to do with their cruelty and shittyness, you should maybe reevaluate.
Just saw a thread on here where a user was stubbornly refusing to adjust their language when another user politely pointed out that it was harmful to our comrades as well, and the person refusing was massively upvoted and the comrade trying to explain why it was harmful was downvoted. Thought we were better than that
I'm not calling anyone out, just wanted to make a post explaining my feelings on it and that when stuff like that happens (not the intelligence based insults, I know its hard to switch, but getting insulted for asking people to avoid them) it hurts and makes me feel less welcome here </3
Using words like “You’re being ignorant” or “That’s a cruel belief” is actually more effective than just going “lmao idiot”.
If those are the words you actually mean to convey I'd say use them instead :)
Edit: if the reception this post got isn't a good proof that this is something this community needs to grapple with, I don't know what is.
good to see the trend of "i'm in argument in another thread, time to make a new thread about it" has continued from reddit
#strugglesession
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More like, argument about another site's rules in another thread...
Don't get me wrong OP, I'm not going to defend ableist language - but I really haven't seen any directed at actual users here. Maybe I'm literally blind to the issue, but... Chill mby?
The other site or rules are irrelevant to why I made this post, I made it because someone bringing up "hey lets avoid insults like this" got massively downvoted and the person insulting them was upvoted. A discussion on this is clearly needed
From the context it seemed like people were upvoting because the poster was shitting on raddle tbh. But from some of the more reactionary reactions in this here thread I'd tend to agree that a discussion may indeed be warranted. Either way, it's going on now so feel free to disregard me entirely
Could very well be true, I quite often miss stuff like that, could be the case here. And no way, I'm not going to disregard you comrade, you were respectful and gave me info about another perspective outside my own which I always appreciate :)
Ditto on the perspective, comrade. I've always been a bit torn on the whole intelligence-ableism complex, but that's probably because I identify myself a lot with my oh-so-functional brain - which I'm working on.
Perpetual becoming, eh?
I've never trusted myself much on anything, let alone an authoritative take on what's right and wrong, so taking other people's perspectives and grappling with them, trying to synthesize them, is one of the methods I've found to help myself feel comfortable with my own conclusions :)
what's this?
Ok, so, I've heard that turn of phrase somewhere - and I like it for it's acknowledgment that nobody and nothing is in any kind of solid state; we're all changing, learning, developing, becoming forever, until we die - and even then. But, because I wanted to look up where that's actually from, I just found out it's the title of Alanis Morisette's biography and now I'm kinda torn on it lol
Oh HELL yeah. That's awesome! Knowing that I'll never be 'finished', never be done growing and learning and developing is a huge source of solace for me. Realizing that helped me stop beating myself up for my past mistakes, times when I harmed others because I didn't know better.
It's what drives my excitement to keep going, to keep making mistakes and learning the lessons.
Thanks comrade, now I have a dope phrase to describe my outlook <3
Well, you're welcome. May it serve you well ;)
If It was about starting drama with a user their name would be here. This is about "hey this is hurtful and makes me feel uncomfortable here, and I wanted to talk about it"