Plenty of things got libs in the streets throughout Trump's presidency, then faded back to being background noise. I'd love for this to be different, I don't believe it will.
I'm feeling doomer about this, because overturning Roe v Wade won't immediately make abortion illegal, it will just open the door for states to do it. So you'll have the "frog in hot water" effect going on where every couple of months different red state will be banning it, but because most libs' access to abortion won't change they won't be able to get riled up about it.
It will immediately make abortion illegal in 20 or 25 states. There are 8 states with pre-Roe abortion bans and at least 12 with "trigger laws" that ban abortion the second Roe is overturned.
No abortion is the one thing that affects rich libs as much as poor people. It is the one thing that Dems have that they can proudly hold above their heads.
Either they will actually fight for it. Or their lack of spine will cause a lot of people to finally call it quits with the Dems. No amount of “boss babe” energy would save Pelosi from failing to stop this.
Hyper rich yeah but there’s already laws in place to stop middle class folks from doing that in multiple states. I’m expecting much more when the reversal goes through. .
i think that's a reach. the Court evidently doesn't have the appetite to continue to engage in abortion-lochnerism, but i imagine they will be loathe to trample on what i imagine are traditional notions of comity and state sovereignty.
like, its one thing for the Court to say that the substantive issue is not contemplated by the constitution (and thus, leaving abortion access to the federal or state legislatures); it would be quite another to affirmatively allow some states to effectively override the laws of other states.
Do you think republican-governors'-daughters don't get abortions?
Rich people will just go to now-even-more-expensive private clinics were they can get an abortion for a hefty sum of money without any fucking lunatic at the door harassing them.
I hope - but extremely doubt - you're right.
Plenty of things got libs in the streets throughout Trump's presidency, then faded back to being background noise. I'd love for this to be different, I don't believe it will.
I'm feeling doomer about this, because overturning Roe v Wade won't immediately make abortion illegal, it will just open the door for states to do it. So you'll have the "frog in hot water" effect going on where every couple of months different red state will be banning it, but because most libs' access to abortion won't change they won't be able to get riled up about it.
It will immediately make abortion illegal in 20 or 25 states. There are 8 states with pre-Roe abortion bans and at least 12 with "trigger laws" that ban abortion the second Roe is overturned.
...oh. TIL.
Yup.
No abortion is the one thing that affects rich libs as much as poor people. It is the one thing that Dems have that they can proudly hold above their heads.
Either they will actually fight for it. Or their lack of spine will cause a lot of people to finally call it quits with the Dems. No amount of “boss babe” energy would save Pelosi from failing to stop this.
huh? rich people can just go to a different jurisdiction to get the abortion. they won't be affected at all.
Hyper rich yeah but there’s already laws in place to stop middle class folks from doing that in multiple states. I’m expecting much more when the reversal goes through. .
hmm. i'm a dummy, but i'll be curious how, ya know, those restrictions contemplate/survive federalism questions.
Same way the other fucking laws have. Judges say it’s fine gets deferred to Supreme Court who then says it’s fine becaaue morals and shit.
i think that's a reach. the Court evidently doesn't have the appetite to continue to engage in abortion-lochnerism, but i imagine they will be loathe to trample on what i imagine are traditional notions of comity and state sovereignty.
like, its one thing for the Court to say that the substantive issue is not contemplated by the constitution (and thus, leaving abortion access to the federal or state legislatures); it would be quite another to affirmatively allow some states to effectively override the laws of other states.
Do you think republican-governors'-daughters don't get abortions?
Rich people will just go to now-even-more-expensive private clinics were they can get an abortion for a hefty sum of money without any fucking lunatic at the door harassing them.