• CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    6 months ago

    I mean that's all true, but only American leftists care about that stuff, the vast plurality of the population are totally disengaged from politics and won't vote anyway, so none of the facts you mentioned matter to them

    The actual freaks who vote like the fact Biden is a fascist, of course they don't use that word but to them Biden is "tough on crime", "tough on the Arabs/muslims terrorists", "doesn't take shit from the Kremlin Republicans"

    And the the economy is doing good (line is up and housing is expensive), "the New York Times said so"

    Old dude is gonna win it outright, it's 2004

    • Wakmrow [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Maybe. I think he's going to lose a lot of the youth vote. None of those things apply to them.

      • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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        6 months ago

        anecdotally I do know some people who've finally moved past "but if you don't voot blue you're voting for trump" in the past year or so. Not a ton, but a couple, and they aren't necessarily hardcore leftists either just done with genocide joe's shit

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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          6 months ago

          I think a lot of those people will start singing a different tune the closer the actual election gets and the more the media resumes talking about Trump.

            • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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              6 months ago

              "The media" ends up in front of you whether you watch it directly or not. Shit filters down into social media and online discourse.

              • Wakmrow [he/him]
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                6 months ago

                There's a reason the youth are incredibly negative about Israel and it's not because they get their information from msnbc

                • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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                  6 months ago

                  Well yes one benefit of social media is us leftists get a bit of a voice on there too. But make no mistake MSNBC has their fingers in that pie too.

      • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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        6 months ago

        I think he's going to lose a lot of the youth vote.

        You mean the vote that matters the least?

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          After decades of constituting the majority of voters, Baby Boomers and members of the Silent Generation made up less than half of the electorate in 2020 (44%), falling below the 52% they constituted in both 2016 and 2018. Gen Z and Millennial voters favored Biden over Trump by margins of about 20 points, while Gen Xers and Boomers were more evenly split in their preferences. Gen Z voters, those ages 23 and younger, constituted 8% of the electorate, while Millennials and Gen Xers made up 47% of 2020 voters.

          Biden barely won and a big part of it was record voter turnout from younger voters

          The narrative that young people don't vote fell flat on its face in 2020

          If by youth vote you mean Gen z yea still not great, and not to fall for the trap of saying millenials are young but those groups everybody scoofs at make up the majority of voters now.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          The youth vote might not matter, but youth support does. They contribute labor to these campaigns that would cost incredible amounts if the DNC had to pay people.