Like, advanced technology, focusing entirely on intercrew arguments, (terrible dialogue and cheesy action), ships flying sideways, no knowledge of ship operations and procedures. Magic technology. Blasters of different colours so we can tell good guys from bad guys. Robots and drones. Really, that's the big one.

If you hate star trek so much Kurtzman, just make a different show.

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Trek was in a realy bad shape before the 09 movie, the TNG movies were all mostly just ok/good, and the best/most popular First Contact was nothing but a self contained action extravaganza. With Patrick Stewart being so cancerous(he realy fought the producers/writers to make him the next big action star) it was only natural the movies would end up like that.

    Enterprise was also mostly seen as a failure despite being good at the end.

    So all their motivations are not in a vacuum evil for the sake of evil. Trek as an IP is realy vast with a lot of potential but that potential is untapped. A TNG reboot with the Enterprise J would have been a far safer option as well with everything being a reboot these days.

    But CBS was cornered because when they look back at Enterprise and Nemesis it seemed like "old trek" just wasn't working anymore, and that the new JJ approach was miles better. So when they went to JJ to ask him to help bring that shit to TV he refused and made Kurtzman his substitute. But you have to understand that the consensus is that Kurtzman production team managed to secure an exclusive license that gave him pretty much total freedom and CBS blessing to do whatever he wants, probably on the back of ridiculous promises, many powerpoint presentations by """market researchers""" pitching the magic formula you know the stereotype,

    The source of all the mediocre TV we got as a result is more to do with Dunning Kruger and hollywood nepotism/favoritism, you know it is the most incompetent ass kissers that rise to the top and as long as enough competent people surround those assholes they'll never fall.

    Discovery could have been good is all I am going to say.

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I hate to say it but the more standalone episodes of discovery season 2 and 3 hint at the old format and were actually pretty decent. It's just so melodramatic and badly written.

      I did enjoy Christopher Pike as a character though.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Yep the ingredients were there even despite the disappointing S1 it was still salvageable. When they teased the Enterprise and Spock there was a tiny bit of hope they "listened" to the fans. Pike was good but he was the only good addition. Some people liked Saru but too little too late.

        But of course they were cynical assholes, they even ran the usual media blitz creating the narrative before S2 that they were "finaly listening to the fans" etc. Fucking assholes.