• Barabas [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Ukrainians were starved to death under Stalin. Most Ukrainians welcomed the Germans

    It is weird how more people died during the Nazi occupation than when Stalin ate all the grain. I assume that they were just so dowtrodden that they couldn't handle all the fair treatment and died from too much freedom.

    • richietozier4 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Don’t you know how Megan Thee Stalin went “Num, num, num, num, eat it up” then ate all the grain?

    • Vncredleader
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      3 years ago

      Plus the brilliant fucking historical evidence of "most Ukrainians" because he says so. Goddamn these fuckers, a LOT of Ukrainians died bravely fighting the Nazis, Ukraine and its people are not a fucking rhetorical tool for anticommunism. Men like Alexander Molodchy defy these bastards.

      We need a Shchors shining emote plz,

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Liberals don't sympathize with Nazis challenge (impossible)

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Fascism biggest priority is killing communists

    • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      This article by jacobin is also good: https://jacobinmag.com/2021/06/operation-barbarossa-war-racial-annihilation-soviet-union-nazi-germany

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    edit-2
    3 years ago

    anyone want to help turn r/ShitHistoryMemesSays into a thing

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        eh, the idea would be to crosspost from there to the critical sub so that there's debunking and mockery linked by reddit itself. but you're probably right

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    My grandmother grew up near a plot of rural Texan federal farmland that was used first for Japanese internment starting in 1941, then after a year or so instead became used for captured Nazi POWs. They would grow oranges (Satsumas). She told me she suspects the reason it changed to housing German soldiers was because the locals would drive past the place and throw eggs at the Japanese-Americans. Unsurprisingly the locals had much less of a problem with captured Germans.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Fascism was never defeated, huh

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I'm 100% certain a bunch of those captured Nazis moved to the area after the war. A lot of my classmates had suspiciously German last names and a completely blank family history.

        • HamManBad [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          On the other hand, Hill country in Texas (an hour or two West of Austin) got a lot of 48ers from Prussia who were pretty cool, Marx considered moving there as well before settling in London. So they might not be Nazi's kids (though it's certainly possible)

        • RNAi [he/him]
          hexagon
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          But Opa told me he's buried in Bariloche

    • dallasw
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      1 year ago

      deleted by creator

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      :I-was-saying: Execution is fair treatment

  • flowernet [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Axis soldiers captured by the Soviet Union got on alright. The Soviet Union and Germany took about the same number of prisoners during the war, but 90% of Soviet Citizens died in captivity, while 90% of German prisoners survived. about 25% of the German deaths were also from the German 6h army, that had around 100,000 soldiers captured when they surrendered at Stalingrad. nearly all of these soldiers died in captivity, but it wasn't primary because of mistreatment, but the fact they were eating basically nothing for weeks prior to surrender and were essentially walking corpses by that time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=occOOTk6OKY conditions in Soviet captivity were, I believe, pretty similar to regular gulag conditions for the time period, and involved forced labor like all western allies did to germans. i believe there was some allowance for prisoner self-governance, but maybe that more applied to Japanese prisoners. Many germans were sent to work in Uranium mines in Poland and Czecheslovakia, which would shape the western notion of Soviet gulags for some time(Total Resistance promises this fate to swiss prisoners of war during a hypothetical Soviet Invasion). German internment however did last longer in the soviet union than in other countries, and only completely ended in 1956.