• Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Just as lazy fun speculation, what implications would there be if there was something to this story? Posadist memes aside. I love brainstorming speculative scifi about this stuff as a writing exercise.

      • TheCaconym [any]
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        8 months ago

        If Douglas Adams had the lathe, it'd be something out of the Hitchhiker's guide. Like all of them drones that were originally intended to provide towels on interstellar cruises, and as soon as we invent FTL they're gonna suddenly go active and visible and pierce the hull of the first ships pushing towels in the face of the poor astronauts.

      • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        That's an angle that's interesting to explore. Maybe include in it clues that hint at the society's demise, with a hint of veiled contemporary social commentary.

      • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        8 months ago

        Only problem with that is it is unlikely that the only thing that survived from them were drones flying around, which would suffer wear and tear and run out of fuel no matter how advanced or efficient they are. We would expect to see the remains of infrastructure found beneath the earth, and if they used fossil fuels at any point in their society's development, we would be able to see the remains of that in the soil (and possibly ice cores if they were recent enough)

        People who peddle these sorts of conspiracy theories unironically forget that societies build a lot of stuff, and produce a lot of rubbish, so any ancient advanced society would be recognised by that long before any advanced craft they built.

        Plus there's the elephant in the room about these sorts of "ancient aliens" claims, they always say that the aliens have an advanced form of technology known to us right now. Con artists in the 50s and 60s talked about the aliens operating rockets and wearing big bubble helmets and wristwatches, these days drones are the advanced tech, so they talk about aliens having drones.

        Sorry for the rant, but it is a pretty short journey from "Ancient advanced civilisation" to "Ancient advanced Aryan civilisation" to "The nazis were right all along!" I've seen too many people fall for this stuff, because the entry to the pipeline is just "harmless speculation" then 6 months later they're looking up nazi UFO videos and insisting that the "wrong side" won ww2.

    • voight [he/him, any]
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      8 months ago

      Idk but Tucker has been talking about how UFOs are demons and angels and I'm scared

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        8 months ago

        Me a baby: Aliens are demons and hell is real.

        Me an adult: Aliens are comrades and transcend mankind's understanding of the universe.

        • voight [he/him, any]
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          8 months ago

          Me, an entity that is inexorably reformed on every world in every dimension as a warning: We can be the aliens. We can bring clarity and peace to ten thousand worlds.

          • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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            8 months ago

            That's another way to look at it in scifi: How an star-faring civilization achieves communism in its lore. Hints at hinge points in its history that went differently than it's earth parallels and just how material conditions may have been more conducive to the success of its own communist movement.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    8 months ago

    I automatically lose respect for any rube who thinks any of this “ufo disclosure” shit is real

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        8 months ago

        There’s a book and a subsequent documentary called Mirage Men about UFO disinformation and the abuses behind it. Personally, I’m gonna start with that because I think the name is cooler lol

    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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      I think UFOs/aliens are probably real but not what the government/media puts out

      the UFO posts I've seen on reddit almost make me feel like there's a psyop against UFOs. There was some ridiculous Mexican hoax that went viral on reddit, as well as a video of a bird shit stain (a few days ago)

      it's almost like they're trying to discredit UFOs as not being real
      I think TPTB are smart enough to know that people don't trust them, so they'll play crap like this (pretending UFOs are real when they're indeed actually real, but ofc leaving out vital info and even seeding their stories with fake info so that you cant ascertain the truth by either accepting or 100% rejecting their position)

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        8 months ago

        I think aliens are real too, but there’s absolutely no way anything otherworldly and high tech will be talked about publicly like this. Especially in this piecemeal weekly drama episode bullshit being retold by congresspeople of all people lol.

        There’s no reason for a limited hangout right now since “UFO researchers” or “UFO leaks” are all fringe / spectacle and don’t affect the government’s operations. This is just pure distraction psyop.

        If some alien was captured in Nebraska or Siberia and broadcasted everywhere, THEN I would believe these disclosures as limited hangout.

        See the other reply to my OP. There are some books that talk about the government’s involvement with pushing UFO stories for various reasons.

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      8 months ago

      It's weird how UFO/UAPs have like "evolved" over the years, from the 50's flying saucer to whatever the fuck they are today, floating Evangelion triangles.

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        The UFO's take the shape of technology humans can understand. In ancient times they were flaming chariots. On Gilligan's Island they were made of coconuts. Dogs see them as a floating version of the loveseat they are forbidden to climb on after they puked on it.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        8 months ago

        As technology evolves, people have more vivid imaginations. Back then vehicles were round and relatively simple looking, so you can only create a hoax based on that.

        Or maybe aliens just evolved alongside us and ditched their reliable, invincible bell UFOs because they fell for the marketing for the Xenu Motors Silverado FTL Model