Eh more of a radlib moment

  • Crowtee_Robot [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Why doesn't the proletariat, the largest class, simply eat the other classes?

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    It's true, we could accomplish a lot of goals.

    Who's goals, you ask?

    That's not something a team player would ask.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    3 years ago

    The Yankees and the Red Socks would win so many more games if they just worked together.

    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Lol this reminded me of the concept of "Gandhian tennis", where instead of getting points if your opponent isn't able to hit the ball, you gain points if your opponent throws the ball at you in a way that couldn't be returned. I showed it to a friend of mine who plays tennis professionally, and didn't like it very much.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        It's basically how you play tennis with children. Like, the goal is to develope your skills with a prolonged rally, not spike the shot on someone half your skill level.

        • effervescent [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I like tennis a lot more with my nephew than I do with my older brother who dunks on me

  • Tervell [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    why don't lions and antelopes simply work together

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    It's a good question. Extremely naive, but the answer is fundamentally the basis of all class struggle. We should be able to explain why class reconciliation is a dead end, and how the abolition of class must be an end goal for any social movement.

    • effervescent [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I think is the best I can do to put it in plain English. People who live off of owning things want to make as much money off of their property as possible. These are the capitalists. People who live off of selling their labor want to make as much money off of their labor as possible. These are the workers. So if a worker figures out how to do 8 hours of work in 6 hours, their labor becomes more efficient. They’d rather be paid the same for that 6 hours of work or be paid more for the original 8 hours because their output has gone up. Meanwhile, the owner who owns that labor would rather it made more profit, which requires the worker to continue working the original 8 hours without extra pay. And that extra 2 hours’ worth of work goes right into the pocket of the owner. That’s is fundamentally what profit is.

      In other words, automation makes labor more efficient, which creates some leftover value. One option is for the worker to get that leftover value in the form of extra free time or higher pay. Another option is for the owner to get that leftover value in the form of profit. Because nearly all businesses are run as dictatorships, a drastically uneven amount of all leftover value is given to the dictator (the owner) in the form of profit.

      • Vncredleader
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        3 years ago

        Makes sense for German Expressionism in Weimar Germany. They see fascism and want to negotiate a deal with it to stop the commies

      • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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        3 years ago

        It's not all bad.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZpaWOLjWx0

        Just because the ending is shitlib doesn't mean that the middle doesn't matter and can't have radical tendencies.

        Shakespeare is similar - all his plays close with the reassertion of state power and state ideology. Does that entirely paper over the radical elements in the middle? <--- shamelessly stolen from Jonathan Dollimore's "Radical Tragedy."

        Don't let a shitty (ideological) ending ruin an amazing and visionary movie.

        • UlyssesT
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          2 months ago

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  • mr_world [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Why don't the employers just pay as much money for as little labor as possible while the workers do as much labor for as little pay as possible. Then we can really change the world. Let's do it! It's morphin' time!

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Management, but like on an imperial scale. The work of a lot of high paid individuals has to do with managing the distribution of surplus value extracted from the periphery or creating tools to "disrupt" markets and open them up to imperial exploitation.

            The Foundation trilogy did a good job of showing a sorta pure form of this with Terminus. A planet that produces nothing, but holds within it the wealth of solar systems. The entire surface down 3 miles is a giant city housing tens of billions of bureaucrats that manage the surplus of an entire galaxy. They're all well paid and incapable of seeing the reality of the periphery.

            They all think they're more developed and advanced than the periphery planets, but then Seldon comes around and predicts the fall of the Empire using psycho-hostory (like a sci-fi dialectical materialism). It eventually comes true and the enclave Seldon built on the outskirts of the Galaxy begins the work of rebuilding galactic society while progressing through the productive stages.

            In this case, those jobs are created by the Empire, in reality, those jobs are just unproductive labor aristocrats that are given the value of their labor plus a small piece of the international surplus by the international bourgeoisie.

            • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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              3 years ago

              The work of a lot of high paid individuals has to do with managing the distribution of surplus value extracted from the periphery or creating tools to “disrupt” markets and open them up to imperial exploitation

              Nooooooooo, stop, you're doing a sectarianism, our precious PMC comrades are workers!!! It's the 99% vs the 1%.

  • Yurt_Owl
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    3 years ago

    Hey at least they are getting dopamine from upvotes along with the people upvoting thinking they solved the world's problems woth a reddit post. They get to go to bed smug tonight