I think it would slap so hard if China developed some amazing version of Linux - something far beyond the best distro we have today. Something that would be as easy as Windows to use. Make it totally free and totally open source. I mean, wouldn't that absolutely wreak havoc on Microsoft and the three letter agencies spying abilities? I'm probably missing something otherwise they would have done that by now.
China still has a vested interest in censorship and monitoring and will likely bake it into any bespoke distribution that they build, particularly for government use.
It is understandable why they do so (yellow Parenti), just unfortunate that it's necessary.
I think the concern isn’t plainly installed spyware, but rather zero day vulnerabilities. However, it’s not like you need to own the project to introduce them, or discover them and wield them. At any rate, open source is the best way we can attempt to create secure software.
Deepin is developed by a private company and had some spyware issues itself. Nothing more sinister than other company-associated distros (lib media really played up the sinophobic angle of sending data to cHiNeSe SeRvErS), but something to be aware of.
Isn't something like Mint pretty much the same as Windows or MacOS? What features are we missing? I think it's just a critical mass thing, do popular apps/games/software work on Linux. What do big institutions, schools, businesses choose to use. Windows has salespeople to influence them.
On windows when I want to install something I just double click on it, but on linux you need to open console for like 90% of stuff you want to do which isn't really beginner friendly.
Downloading exe files at random on the internet isn’t as easy for most people as you think it is, you’re just used to it. Almost every popular Linux distribution has a graphical software store at this point, as well.
I use Mint 98% of the time, though still dual boot Windows 10 (need it so I can keep using my Zune HD player). I love Mint and think it's way better than Windows... but it's still not close to Windows in terms of usability for people like my parents. They know, for example, to stick the thumb drive in the hole, then a folder pops up. They know if they want to install a program, they go to a website, click on the big "download now" button, and click "run" when the popup comes up. Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out why I can't install Docker properly.
Again, I love Mint and think it's better than Windows for me, but imo there's no Linux distro out there that's ready for the masses.
I think it would slap so hard if China developed some amazing version of Linux - something far beyond the best distro we have today. Something that would be as easy as Windows to use. Make it totally free and totally open source. I mean, wouldn't that absolutely wreak havoc on Microsoft and the three letter agencies spying abilities? I'm probably missing something otherwise they would have done that by now.
China still has a vested interest in censorship and monitoring and will likely bake it into any bespoke distribution that they build, particularly for government use.
It is understandable why they do so (yellow Parenti), just unfortunate that it's necessary.
i mean if its open source, does it matter? someone can fork it and remove any spyware (if any).
I think the concern isn’t plainly installed spyware, but rather zero day vulnerabilities. However, it’s not like you need to own the project to introduce them, or discover them and wield them. At any rate, open source is the best way we can attempt to create secure software.
I suppose, though China also doesn't (and shouldn't) need to respect Western copyright laws, so it also doesn't need to make it open source.
It's... not really necessary, unless mass surveillance is a part of building productive forces and I'm high
It's not of building productive forces, but it is arguably part of facing the threat of the imperialist worlds espionage and subterfuge operations.
oh that
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They have Deepin which is pretty nice
Deepin is developed by a private company and had some spyware issues itself. Nothing more sinister than other company-associated distros (lib media really played up the sinophobic angle of sending data to cHiNeSe SeRvErS), but something to be aware of.
Isn't something like Mint pretty much the same as Windows or MacOS? What features are we missing? I think it's just a critical mass thing, do popular apps/games/software work on Linux. What do big institutions, schools, businesses choose to use. Windows has salespeople to influence them.
On windows when I want to install something I just double click on it, but on linux you need to open console for like 90% of stuff you want to do which isn't really beginner friendly.
Downloading exe files at random on the internet isn’t as easy for most people as you think it is, you’re just used to it. Almost every popular Linux distribution has a graphical software store at this point, as well.
It's beginner friendly as soon as you've done it like 3 times.
sudo apt install [program]The problem with this is remember software naming and discovery.
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I use Mint 98% of the time, though still dual boot Windows 10 (need it so I can keep using my Zune HD player). I love Mint and think it's way better than Windows... but it's still not close to Windows in terms of usability for people like my parents. They know, for example, to stick the thumb drive in the hole, then a folder pops up. They know if they want to install a program, they go to a website, click on the big "download now" button, and click "run" when the popup comes up. Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out why I can't install Docker properly.
Again, I love Mint and think it's better than Windows for me, but imo there's no Linux distro out there that's ready for the masses.
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