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Alright, I'm going to step in here on behalf of the mod team. Reddit has been very supportive of r/antiwork and we have maintained good communication with the admins. We have even been given access to certain tools and features not made available to other subreddits. We have no reason to believe at this time that the announcement of a forthcoming IPO will lead to major changes in Reddit policy or to any sort of activist shareholder(s) engaging in conspiratorial plots to have this subreddit or other leftist subreddits shut down. Most of the subreddits that have been banned have been banned either due to being unmoderated, or for persistent, pervasive, unmoderated violations of the Reddit Rules. We have consistently taken steps to abide by the Reddit Rules, to the best of our interpretation. If the admins point out to us that we need to take further action to abide by sitewide rules, we will take appropriate action. We do not need a massive panic to making alternative servers or trying to jump ship from the subreddit. While we are floored by the fact that so many of you are eager to make contingency plans, the moderators here want to ensure you that we do not foresee any forthcoming subreddit ban or other adverse action taken against the subreddit. If and when that changes, we will make an announcement to that effect.
I remember when I was a lib, didn't know head from my ass.
For an anarchist, that sounds alot like centralized control crowd work.
"Stay here. Dont start splinter groups. Dont make backup plans in case we get deleted."
I dont think the movement should splinter, but having two meeting places is just a good idea.
We need thousands and thousands of encrypted and auto deleted chats/fourms. They can't monitor them all. Or at least make them work for it
lol yeah..my prediction is they will be shut down so suddenly there won't even be an unverified rumor of it like with chapo. some feds or mercs will post some violent convos and insta ban before there's a chance for over a million subs to go anywhere else. scattered into the ether, most go back to being nice atomized libs.
We have no reason to believe at this time that the announcement of a forthcoming IPO will lead to major changes in Reddit policy
Imagine having no brain. Now imagine having less brain than that. Now imagine believing IPOs have no effect on corporate policy.
Corporations are not and never will be your friend. They want your loyalty but theirs is always an illusion.
Huh, the bad tech billionaires are giving me direct access and all kind of benefits? Cool, being a leftist is fun! Eat the rich
I'm always torn between inviting people here and not wanting the vibe to get ruined.
I legit think we'd scare most of them off, if the traffic surge didn't fry our server first.
It's kind of fun to educate new libs on home turf though, because it feels like a group effort.
It would be nice if we had some "open" subs that you can post in right away, and some "closed" subs where you can post after a month or something
Doing a MLM scheme but for posting. You slowly have to work your way up the ladder, until you have cleared yourself of Thetans and can perceive the True Memes.
May as well invite them since we're all :LIB: s here anyway.
Not like the discourse is all that different if the treats are criticized. :shrug-outta-hecks:
Continually invite the coolest users in the comments.
Don't wait for it to shut down then try to life raft the entire community at once.
This is the best prospect.
Many will remember the sudden influx of r/vegancirclejerk when it got banned, and a handful of struggle sessions that ensued.
The best way to bring a group in, I feel, is one by one, making slightly more personalized connections, and having the early arrivals set the tone for the rest.
Best way is not to invite people, but to post links to cool/funny threads and let people lurk and see if they fit in.
What a hidden gem this place is. Found hexbear from the replies from the mods reply, which is an obvious canary.
“If the admins point out to us we need to take further action to abide by sitewide rules, then we will take appropriate action.”
Which is clearly a smoking gun for
“we know the rules can change to fuck this all up.”
They did it to the Chapo sub, they'll do it to you too.
Welcome, comrade.
Welcome to the best emojis on the world wide web :brace-cowboy:
then we will take appropriate action.
The action: :stalin-gun-1:
Welcome aboard o7
I don't think we need to invite /r/antiwork here, but it wouldn't be a bad idea for people to start other obvious places for the movement to move to, just in case.
I suppose the discord...
Read that as "once Reddit shuts down" :sicko-yes: :yes-hahaha-yes-l:
Then I read it again and saw "once Reddit shuts /r/antiwork down" :sicko-wistful:
I've noticed several ops recently that have been popping up.
/r/workersriseup for example, this subreddit appeared on my radar a few weeks back and was growing lightning fast via massive amounts of crossposting across reddit. I reached out to establish a relationship with them but they acted like cops and we got suspicious. We ended up cutting ties and blocking their ability to crosspost in all our subreddits.... That sub is now private, probably being held as a sleeper that can be re-engaged at a later date. It had 20k subs in 3 weeks before I stopped checking in on it.
In the last few weeks a subreddit appeared with identical posting habits growing at a similar pace in exactly the same way - /r/freefromwork
I am pretty sus that they're fed ops.
I think you're giving the Feds entirely too much credit. Peter Thiel, some Koch cut-out, or an Amazon-employed anti-union group sound at least as likely.
It doesn't matter who it is. Op is an op regardless of who is doing it. I agree that it could be neoliberals, could be hedgies, could be all kinds of shits. Whoever they are though they clearly have a deep understanding of reddit as their growth and algorithm manipulation is above that of literally anyone I know in the left side of reddit. Tronaldo is the most effective growth-monster in the reddit left when it comes to growing subs and these people dwarf his work, very sus. I also know it's not him.
It doesn’t matter who it is.
Not in so far as we're all getting fucked just as hard.
But I do think there's a fundamental difference between a public sector bureaucrat operating out of some ideological or nationalist agenda, and some corporate flak doing OpSec purely for the paycheck.
Whoever they are though they clearly have a deep understanding of reddit as their growth and algorithm manipulation is above that of literally anyone I know in the left side of reddit.
Reddit has always been an illusion of participation. The original conceit of the website was to spoof user interaction in order to sucker in real people. That system has been exploited repeatedly, by both political and corporate cronies, going back to the Ron Paul days.
The fact that spaces like The_Donald and AntiWork and GenZDong keep cropping up suggests that these people don't know what they've created or even how to control it. They only know the most ham-fisted way to shape public opinion and cannot tolerate even a modicum of coordinated push back.
Reddit owners can profit off promising new kinds of manufactured consent and social control. But, at the end of the day, they're just selling the same flimsy macros and bots they've always used. They're going the same way as all the other social media firms. Just a hill of lies used to siphon off advertising budgets.
Nothing official otherwise we’ll have vegancirclejerk v2.0
The idea of setting something up on Mastodon could work if they could explain to the average Redditor what the hell Mastodon is.
whats the largest reddit sub that's ever been shut down by the admins?
They shut down sandersforpresident in 2016 after hillary got the nomination, immediately destroying the community for hundreds of thousands of people in the hopes of party unity or some shit.
looks like the sub’s mods shut it down temporarily, not reddit admins. the sub is still active.
yes it was temporary and they brought it back for 2020 but it was unforgivable that they shut it down at all imo,
also i dont know that it's worth making a distinction between subreddit mods and reddit mods.
It is worth understanding the difference IMO. Site mods will be shit because corporate pressure from above. Sub mods will be shit because of internet napoleon complexes and / or being bought off on the back end by some grimy PR guy.
like 250,000 when it went offline I think? antiwork is at 1.5M now, so i doubt they would ever shut it down now, but mods can 1000% ruin it like what happens w most large subs eventually
It was the mods who "chose" to shut it down IIRC and I think some of them were against the move but it never blew up into a huge controversy. I would put money down on that mod team getting some of the clinton / mook dark money to shut down. Either that or they got threatened with an Epsteining.
There was a sub called Jailbait that had explicit photos of underage girls that at one point was the 2nd largest sub on reddit, that didn't get banned until CNN did an expose on it.
Might be nice to have a Lemmy network of these social media sites, kinda like the old Portals and Web Rings from Web 1.0, so we all know we're out there without treading on each others toes.
I'm making a regular donation for server costs, other people should throw in a few bucks too
https://hexbear.net/donate
Lol feel that but "antiwork is becoming dangerous to large business interests" is pretty funny ngl
Liferaft? If I have a vote, I'm siding with no.
But absolutely talk this place up, post memes with the hexbear.net logo on them, get into the comments and tell folks about this place if they seems cool.
"A trickle but not a torrent."
