Title: Retired general warns the U.S. military could lead a coup after the 2024 election

Only in communist countries do they politically brainwash their soldiers.

  • effervescent [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Uncle Beau seems to think that this general knows the stats he’s citing are bullshit and that stunts like these are the only way to get DoD to actually do the training they should already be doing. Like, fuck the United States, but we legitimately do not want the US government to be couped by a bunch of QAnon military factions and these trainings would have a decent chance of weeding them out.

    • Does_KJU_Have_Drip [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Liberal hysterics, why would capital overthrow the seat of capital? There is no benefit to any kind of coup in the US, no risk of communism.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Think less "overthrow," more "new management." Conservatives often rail against existing repressive institutions not because they are fundamentally opposed to their mission, but because they think those institutions aren't doing a good enough job at repressing the right people.

        • Does_KJU_Have_Drip [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Please point to a historical example of a Liberal republic being overthrown by a fascist or military junta where there was no threat of socialist or labor movements. As far as I know, that's somewhere between extremely rare to unprecedented. The capitalists prefer the more stable system of Liberal democracy, and when that fails they are fine with fascist dictatorship as a back-up. But that back-up usually only occurs during intense crisis and a socialist movement.

          Considering Biden is an obedient puppet of capital there's no reason for capital to fund the fascist uprising. That would only happen if there was actual threats in the state to them.

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            no threat of socialist or labor movements.

            We're seeing a spike in labor activity, a democratic socialist was a major player in the last two presidential campaigns, and we're one year removed from a generational wave of protests kicked off and sustained for months by the patent injustices of capitalist policing. There's more of a threat of socialist or labor movements in the U.S. than there has been since the 60s or 70s.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            3 years ago

            We're living in unprecedented times. Capitalism is facing an intense crisis it's never faced before - the rate of profit is plummeting and the existing system is stretched to it's breaking point with no where left to exploit.

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        You should check the histories of other places, libs get couped by open fascism just because it's more benefitting to biger powers, (especially for libs who try do some economic independence from the central powers, that's a big no-no and you'll get whacked with a big IMF loan as soon as possible).

        • Does_KJU_Have_Drip [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Let capital handle problems of capital. You don't need to side with them against "fascism" when they already have complete and total control of the state. The entire scare of "Trumpism" and "alt right" is over-hyped and scaremongered to get vulnerable non-voting populations and leftists more onboard with a "popular anti-fascist front". Seems reasonable right? Except that Biden is exactly as fascist as Trump is, by any definition I can think of. Democrats are not on your side or your ally against fascists.

          • effervescent [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Cool thanks for the lesson this is all new information to me I will now stop donating to democrats and stop enrolling in the army and stop giving cops hugs when I see them in the street you have opened my eyes

            • Does_KJU_Have_Drip [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Good first step would be to stop fearmongering about the imminent fascist coup and pogroms that will happen anyday now in leftist spaces, because the only outcome of that is people being driven back to the Democrats to do "Harm mitigation" and it's hyperbolic and unrealistic. It's crying wolf.

              • effervescent [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                I definitely said they were imminent and I’m sure there are plenty of leftists on Chapo dot chat about to turn socdem because of my liberal fear mongering

    • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      US government to be couped by a bunch of QAnon military factions

      :sicko-hair:

      • effervescent [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I’ve personally had my fill of paramilitaries roaming the streets and hunting minorities. We don’t need full pogroms

        • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I don't think this plan to ideologically train soldiers is gonna do much to blunt that possibility. Civics lessons are already part of k-12 education and there already are open fascists intentionally joining the military to get training and do fascism.

          The reasons for events like 1/6 or a possible military coup isn't because people didn't read the constitution closely enough.

        • jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          they're probably less competent though so it could possibly be better than our current fascists

          :shrug-outta-hecks:

            • effervescent [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah I suppose it’s not impossible. But the point of the trainings being advocated for is keep them less competent. Without them we are literally teaching fascists how to coup governments by giving them trainings on how to defend against those potential coups. I know libs are going super hard on the January 6th stuff, but a lot of these right wing paramilitary groups are legitimately are growing in power and in numbers