AKA: why historians hate Anime

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      No investigation no right to speak. Open up those cans of brainworms and feast feast feast

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Re:Zero is at least good, Fate is just trash without even getting into shit like the loli spinoff.

      • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Fate has precisely two good things in the series. Fate/Zero, made by writer of Madoka Magica Gen Urobuchi and Fate/Strange Fake made by the writer of Baccano! Ryōgo Narita

        The rest of it is really just waifu bait, but those two stories are like actual serious fun action dramas.

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Fair enough. For what it's worth, I didn't actually care for Zero because most of the stories end up going nowhere. Those that do (off the top of my head: Waver, Berserker, Kotomine) were, imo, pretty unsatisfactory. The two parts I liked were Kiritsugu's backstory and the Caenith/Kiritsugu arc, because it showed people who are supposed to be smart and conniving actually coming up with tricky plans. I unironically preferred the Einzburn Consultation Service chibi spinoff.

          I'm not familiar enough with the franchise to know what type of media Strange Fake is, but I'm willing to accept it may be okay.

          • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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            3 years ago

            I would say part of the problem with Zero not having its stories end well is from being a prequel so I was more willing to forgive it for those.

            Strange/Fake isn't finished yet so it's hard to say too much about it but I think it has some very clever designs and character moments so far. Like one of the Riders (there's two different grail wars going on at the same time in the city) is a shadow monster of disease representing Pestilence (that hasn't been covered too much yet though) or their take on Jack the Ripper which is infinitely better than Apocrypha because this Jack is a Berserker who is actually sane unlike most Berserkers and can transform into anything that people thought Jack the Ripper was so crowds of people or a cursed watch or anything really as long as it's a real rumor.

            The only character I can think of that's even close to a loli design much is Tiné who gets a youth potion and she's not sexualized at all.

            • barrbaric [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Sounds closer to what I thought the initial concept would be, honestly. Also good that they didn't go with the Grand Order Jack who is... a loli in a g-string.

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    How are 49/50 results for the search of Nero Fate/Grand Order related? He is easily in the top 5 most known Roman emperors.

        • Cromalin [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          It's based on a dating game, but the creators resent that imo. They wanted to do cool anime bullshit urban fantasy, but also wanted money, so they made porn games with the worst sex scenes you've ever seen, and ended up making a boatload of money. That's what it looks like to me at least.

        • KollontaiWasRight [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I think the series is based on a dating game or something?

          Sort of - Zero is based off of a light novel, but the first story in the Fate universe was an H-Game with famously unsettling prose (at one point, an anus is described as behaving 'like a mollusk').

        • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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          3 years ago

          There will be always somebody for you to blame. It will make you feel better about yourself (...) But the point is; What different is this to Marvel heroes? To cartoon characters? To youtubers or twitch streamers?

          What a lib thing to say, who is being blamed? Furthermore, anime characters are cartoons, so what is your point?

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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      3 years ago

      We are scared shitless of getting close to real, flawed, complex human beings. To fill that void we make up larger than life super heroic caricatures and pretend to engage in para-social relationships with those instead.

      Idealism. The problem is not that "people are scared of other people", the problem is that neoliberal capitalist markets have ground down all meaningful forms of human connection (in the "1st world") through its many vagaries such as commodification, competition, and austerity. There is just no time, money, and energy to create numerous close relationships for the vast majority of subjects. Furthermore, who is 'we' here? The brain geniuses responsible for Astolfo's modern incarnation are a corporation with financial incentives to make a femboy knight, it didn't spring from the collective will of the masses.

      Blaming the imaginary other for our general sickness is merely a coping mechanism.

      :jesse-wtf: