Lmao that bodes well :doomjak:

  • culpritus [any]
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    3 years ago

    we were hoping we could eliminate the virus, but it’s not in the nature of the virus to eliminate it

    muh virus nature

  • Fredward [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    We're about to adopt a vibes-based covid strategy

  • Tervell [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Science RULES, except when it's politically inconventient, in which case we'll just revert to Roman-style augury

  • Mother [any]
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    3 years ago

    When the numbers look bad, just change the numbers!

    • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Can’t hit the 1 million deaths high score if you change the meaning of death :eddie-murphy-taps-head:

      Jokes aside but if the next month goes the way I expect, I can totally see them doing the “oh they died with Covid and co-morbitities, not of Covid” thing.

      Election year, gotta make sure we :vote: for the party of Joe Biden who very clearly and uncontroversially won the battle against the virus!

  • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    But over the past two weeks, while the number of Covid cases in the United States has increased by 181%, the number of hospitalizations has increased by 19% and the number of deaths has decreased by 5%.

    fuck you give it 4 weeks, that's when the hospitalizations and deaths catch up

    • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      https://www.npr.org/2021/12/28/1068643344/cdc-omicron-covid-19-delta-revise-estimates

      This is sort of outdated by now since there's been such a dramatic increase in cases over the last week, but the CDC recently posted "oopsie, lol, most of these cases are actually still delta cases". Omicron didn't magically displace delta. It's an ongoing process. So there's going to be a spike in deaths even if omicron really is less severe, and they don't really know that either.

    • mr_world [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      That's such a wild way of doing the numbers. A 5% increase in deaths is okay because there have been 181% increase in cases. As long as we get as many people as we can sick, we can accept higher and higher amounts of death. Weird how much sense that makes in the light of the recent CDC decision and the whole pandemic response since day 1. It's almost like they realize that.

      • star_wraith [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        And a lower death rate doesn't even necessarily imply less virulence! If the vax mostly stops delta from giving someone covid, but isn't as effective in stopping omicron (but still prevents major illness), you could have two variants with the same virulence but in this case omicron "looks better" since the death rate is lower but inherent virulence is the same.

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        the deaths decreased by 5% (but yea this is still bullshit because the hospitalizations/deaths come later)

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          There was a slight dip in deaths before the peak of deaths last holiday season too, but lots of blue checks on Twitter are hanging onto that tidbit. I know pundits are dumb as hell, but it's funny that they keep falling for the exact same fallacies during this pandemic repeatedly.

  • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    If a disease doesn't kill you (it definitely can) then it's unimportant how quickly it spreads, we should probably ignore it altogether :very-smart:

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Unless I misunderstand, the “Omicron is less severe” thing that people keep fucking saying isn’t even really true. It’s literally just that more people are vaccinated or already fucking got covid , along with bad math not accounting for the delay for hospitalizations and deaths.

    Whoever first put that in a headline needs to be insert actionable threat for the fucking destruction they caused, because after they said it people just kept fucking repeating it. By the way The Guardian, the New York Times is not an acceptable source to cite when talking about a scientific finding. Cite a peer reviewed study or shut the fuck up Jesus fucking Christ.

    Edit: I followed the trail, NYT cites an actual study. The study is in preprint, meaning it hasn’t been peer reviewed yet. It also has a fuck ton of conflicts of interest. And most notably, the sample sizes are fucking tiny. The largest group I saw was a sample size of 6, most parameters only got 3 or 4.

    In short, they’re basing this off of the fact that when they gave 3 hamsters normal Covid and gave 3 omicron, all of the normal Covid ones died and only one of the omicron ones died. This study is a joke.

    • PrideBoy [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      They needed to put that out to stop mass panic about a 10x transmissible variant sweeping society.

  • Parenti [comrade/them,any]
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    3 years ago

    Saw some doctor say that a sign of a pandemic ending is new variants becoming less severe :bloomer:

    This is the hope I will be keeping