It´s just a hunch for me, but conservatives have already given up on the whole civility thing which I have yet to experience a single liberal abandon. When people talk about their journey towards leftism, it´s either they used to be chuds or they were never sold on capitalism to begin with.

This is just anecdotal and based on my scewed experience. Anyone got something to add or refute?

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    In my experiences, no. There are more brainworms to work through with chuds. I think it's easy to hate liberals more when you become a leftist. They position themselves as the moral and caring side, but in reality they offer little material support to those who need it most. That being said, many liberals will never have the same base level of bigotry a chud has. A little theory and a some one on one conversations can go a long way with libs

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah, I think it often comes down to why they're against leftism. The chuds are often so full of confused racism and bigotry and that's their entire reason. Some kind of grand conspiracy and racial panic. Liberals think they can get to a point of outsmarting capitalism, that all it takes is a few tweaks here and there and the system will be perfect forever. Since the chuds are coming from a position of incoherent nonsense, it can sometimes be easy to get them into at least something like unionizing or mutual aid, or that can be incredibly difficult. Who knows.

      I'm biased though because every liberal I've known has been a professional class college educated type who has at least some awareness of what leftists believe so they've made a conscious decision to remain a liberal. Conservatives I've met usually don't make a distinction nor do they believe there's anything more complicated politically than "good christian conservative white Americans" versus "everything I don't like."

    • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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      3 years ago

      Conservatives are harder to convince, but it's more likely to "stick" if you get through to them.

      2022 Liberals are defined by their willingness to trust the media and popular institutions, so even if they appear to agree with you, even claim to "want the same thing", they are often unreachable because anything you get through to them is subject to being done away in an instant once MSNBC and BreadTube says it's bad, helps the GOP etc.

      Compare and contrast what happens when Trump talks about v**ines and Bernie talking about Israel. Trump's fans boo him when he says something they all oppose, Bernie's fans make excuses.