There's a lot of ruin in a country, but yes. Frankly I'm just waiting for the defeat of a US field army (or more likely, a carrier group) in open battle to make it clear to everyone, but that may not happen for a decade or more.
Don't expect it to look like a zombie plague or something. There will be no "the USA is disbanding, hoist down the flag" moment like the SU. It'll be more like Rome or the Bronze Age Collapse in Egypt (which technically survived but just sort of spun apart over the next 100 years.)
In the cities it'll look fine, but prices will rise and infrastructure stop working. Local government will take over what they can. In the country things will actually collapse, but frankly, many places they already have. Things like federal roads and bridges will go away unless needed for military. Poorer states will go under as the Federal Government can't redistribute funds. Richer ones sometimes band together, sometimes squabble over declining resources. People will die in disasters and climate change, but mostly old and poor people at first.
The water crisis is something that can be fixed with a single large angry mob, so it will go away after the first instance of mass water rationing. Either the state governments fix their dumb water use laws, or people forcibly reroute some irrigation ditches.
The Colorado River rationing went into affect on the first. Farmers will be losing fields. Even with LV and other cities slowing accepting lawns are not capable of growing in the desert there's not enough water. It would take years of rationing to restore the shed.
A mob rising up and municipalities caving to them or digging irrigation channels will empty reservoirs even faster. The shed is nearly broken and constantly going from droughts to floods is not restoring it. Nor is continued loss of snow caps.
One third of Earth's surface water will be gone by 2060, and the Ogallala aquifer might not last until then either. This is a law of nature thing, not a bad policy that direct action could fix immediately
Washington is techbro hellscape surrounded by psychos frothing at the mouth for the chance to shoot anyone who dares to ride a bike near their gated community. Not saying it's not one of the better states but it's still America. For many people, laws and prison are the only things stopping them from killing anyone that offends them.
I'm saying a climate crisis is going to cause an increase in resource insecurity, leading to flareup conflicts, leading to key resources being cut off, followed by a reduction in internal and then external state capability. Then the Sea Peoples
There's a lot of ruin in a country, but yes. Frankly I'm just waiting for the defeat of a US field army (or more likely, a carrier group) in open battle to make it clear to everyone, but that may not happen for a decade or more.
Don't expect it to look like a zombie plague or something. There will be no "the USA is disbanding, hoist down the flag" moment like the SU. It'll be more like Rome or the Bronze Age Collapse in Egypt (which technically survived but just sort of spun apart over the next 100 years.)
In the cities it'll look fine, but prices will rise and infrastructure stop working. Local government will take over what they can. In the country things will actually collapse, but frankly, many places they already have. Things like federal roads and bridges will go away unless needed for military. Poorer states will go under as the Federal Government can't redistribute funds. Richer ones sometimes band together, sometimes squabble over declining resources. People will die in disasters and climate change, but mostly old and poor people at first.
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:xi-plz: destroy the united states by coming over in galleys and pillaging the coast with your superior iron weaponry
Hey don't forget the impending water crisis in the south west. Which will probably begin collapsing richer states too.
The water crisis is something that can be fixed with a single large angry mob, so it will go away after the first instance of mass water rationing. Either the state governments fix their dumb water use laws, or people forcibly reroute some irrigation ditches.
The Colorado River rationing went into affect on the first. Farmers will be losing fields. Even with LV and other cities slowing accepting lawns are not capable of growing in the desert there's not enough water. It would take years of rationing to restore the shed.
A mob rising up and municipalities caving to them or digging irrigation channels will empty reservoirs even faster. The shed is nearly broken and constantly going from droughts to floods is not restoring it. Nor is continued loss of snow caps.
Point is the climate crises is now.
One third of Earth's surface water will be gone by 2060, and the Ogallala aquifer might not last until then either. This is a law of nature thing, not a bad policy that direct action could fix immediately
Being in Washington, you just made my day a lot better. Free us from these other states for the love of god
Washington is techbro hellscape surrounded by psychos frothing at the mouth for the chance to shoot anyone who dares to ride a bike near their gated community. Not saying it's not one of the better states but it's still America. For many people, laws and prison are the only things stopping them from killing anyone that offends them.
Like Egypt? So what you're saying is that mysterious unidentified "Sea Peoples" will show up to raid the coasts?
...It's going to be mercenaries from South Florida, isn't it
I'm saying a climate crisis is going to cause an increase in resource insecurity, leading to flareup conflicts, leading to key resources being cut off, followed by a reduction in internal and then external state capability. Then the Sea Peoples