• LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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    11 months ago

    This video is okay, I think it's 27 minutes in full but I watched the first ten and it's alright. One of the interviewees from the US talks about how the DPRK really just wants to join the international community but is experiencing crisis I wasn't aware have been happening since the 90s like energy and malnourishment. I'm not sure how up to date that is

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      11 months ago

      The fall of the Soviet Union took the DPRK's (and many of the AES's) biggest trading partner off the table. Lead to famine and all sorts of resource issues. If I remember correctly, DPRK was actually better off than the South for a while there.

    • Sinistar
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      11 months ago

      AFAIK the North completely overhauled their food production in the 90s which is why the loss of trade with China during COVID didn't trigger a famine - but they definitely lost a bunch of variety in their diets for that time which understandably caused problems. The energy problems though are on par with any other industrialized-but-poor nation, something that the DPRK has gotten better at dealing with but really can't solve under present conditions.

      (as an aside the North's commitment to being food self-reliant is also one of the reasons their economic recovery in the 2000s was so slow - growing food in the North is really difficult and inefficient, which is why traditionally they've relied on food imports, but when that was no longer an option they had to dedicate a ton of labor and resources to doing it anyway which cannibalized labor and resources that were previously being used for heavy industry)

  • drinkinglakewater [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    This is a very surprising policy turn, does this mean reunification is off the table permanently or is it just a shift in priority?

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      11 months ago

      Just talking out my butt, but I imagine a shift in priority. Every documentary I've seen of people in the DPRK they talk about their hope for reunification because so many have family on the other side. With the US ramping up shitfest levels across the globe I can see how there could be a need to shift priorities and stance towards trying to seem as big and dangerous as possible. It's not as if the western world is responding to peaceful overtures anyway.

      • spectre [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        The US is responding to prospective peace talks by forcing the ROK not to engage in them.

    • Sinistar
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      11 months ago

      My take is that the DPRK has wanted to normalize relations with the rest of the world ever since the Korean War ended, but their hard line stance on reunification was and remains a stumbling block on establishing a proper peace treaty and changing those relations. Previously that's a price they've simply paid - but now they have two factors that I can see that are pushing them to try something new. The first one is the post-COVID economic crash: the DPRK's economy was slow to grow already and the loss of what trade they had with China and Russia made things worse, so opening up relations with other countries looks more valuable than it did before.

      The second is America's slipping hegemony: the DPRK's economy would be massively boosted if they could get some of that Belt and Road investment, become a member of BRICs, trade with China using their own currency, or any of the other things that have become possible in the past couple of years in the international community, but as long as they can't get over that first hurdle of signing a peace deal with the South those doors will remain closed to them.

      I'm sure there are internal factors too. The media portrays the Kim family as though they're the sole directors of policy in the country but they've got a head of government and a head of state and factions within the worker's party and all of those other things that other countries have to deal with. It could be that COVID was just the last straw and now there is a demand within the WPK to try something different, and this is the result - but without reliable reporting on the DPRK's internal politics this is all speculation on my part.

  • RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    If anyone is interested in some history on the background of this whole thing, Blowback podcast did an amazing season on it. Here's a link to the first episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/78BdsG6eicVXJ5cQBRs2Md?si=fae6295cffa4403d

    • Vampire [any]
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      Without DRM: https://player.fm/series/blowback/s3-episode-1-stop-me-before-i-kill-again

      Just the mp3: https://audio4.redcircle.com/episodes/1dadc53c-b939-4bfb-b0d8-fa4f6e2188fd/stream.mp3

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    11 months ago

    Anybody have sources that this is actually true? The news report they also want to destroy Kim Jong Ils reunification statue and sites like Vice News are reporting on it so I have no idea if any of this is even true

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      Nothing but satellite images but this seems to back it up. https://news.sky.com/story/north-korea-reportedly-tears-down-monument-to-peace-and-reunification-with-south-korea-13055223

  • Letstakealook@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    I mean, this makes sense. Reunification would require a dramatic economic, political, and societal upheaval on one or both sides of the dmz that I don't see happening in any reasonable amount of time. The only way to accomplish it in the near future would be conflict, but there wouldn't be much left to unify for whichever side comes out on top.

    • TheGenderWitch [she/her, she/her]
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      11 months ago

      the north would wait until revolutionary conditions, which is easily in south korea's future with its acute capitalist dystopia.