More or less what you'd expect from that guy.

  • DunkinIdaho [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    This whole thing is just really sad. Guy is incredibly mentally ill and instead of getting help he was left to his own devices and wandered into a riot and is now being tortured for 3 and a half years.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah I ain't a doctor but I really believe there's some kind of pandemic of debilitating schizophrenia in America. Or whichever illness is where people make connections that aren't there. These conspiracy theories are based on the most threadbare associations. Like the shaman guy was talking about people vaguely looking like one another as itself part of a vast conspiracy. They're also obsessed with numbers lining up, dates repeating, people saying certain words that suddenly get imbued with grand symbolic importance.

      It all strikes me as severe illness and we really have a huge mental health crisis if hundreds of thousands of people buy into qanon.

      If anyone here knows more about this kind of mental illness, please let me know or set me straight if I'm saying something ableist

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        They’re also obsessed with numbers lining up, dates repeating, people saying certain words that suddenly get imbued with grand symbolic importance.

        Hasn't this shit also just been a part of a certain type of American religiosity for a long time

        • disco [any]
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          3 years ago

          Yes. Its no coincidence that the first and largest Qanon community on Reddit was called “The Great Awakening”

        • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          The -48 cult in Dallas that was posted about before is a numerology cult, there's been a ton of them through us history.

      • geese_feces [comrade/them, love/loves]
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        3 years ago

        The pandemic of schizophrenia in America is religion. None of this guy's beliefs are any more detached from reality than mainstream christian beliefs are.

  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    But at the same time I try to understand [Trump's] reasoning for all that and I know that I don't know everything.

    Literally phrases used by Christians with regards to God when bad shit happens like a kid dying of cancer.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Trump is the only physical totem that Q people have. He's the only outlet of their faith they can point to with any sure confidence, because clearly Trump is real. That means whatever he does and says must be unquestionable, because it's the central thing that binds their worldview. That's also why half of them believe in time travel or whatever and they argue among themselves.

  • Tripbin [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Andrew knows how to talk to every form of delusional person he meets and it's amazing.

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I think it takes a special kind of talent to push back the way he does without making the subject of the interview get defensive or feel like they're being mocked.

    • CommieElon [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think Andrew is just a normal, humble dude it’s just 90% of Americans are babbling, incoherent blowhards. The average American makes him look like a genius.

      Obviously he’s talented but what he does is ask simple questions and most of the people are off to the races.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      I'm unfortunate enough to have a ton of relatives who are armpit deep in qanon lore. Reading the stuff online or hearing stuff in podcasts is just funny. It's such a hilariously inept and obviously bogus conspiracy theory I can't help but laugh.

      In real life? When you can look into a person's eyes and hear their tone of voice, it does get uncomfortable. Because when these people have to put it into their own words it comes out as just blatant fascism and antisemitism. It ends up being horrifyingly racist panic over bloodlines and fate of the west and hidden elites doing cultural Marxism.

      And I hate it. Flesh and blood human beings right in front of me going glass eyed and spouting off Nazi propaganda because they spent a few hours watching Facebook videos of dudes in their trucks. It's like they have some kind of internal inclination inside themselves already to be fascists and the tiniest push from the internet sends them into full bore Nazi, except with plausible deniability because they obfuscate everything with batshit conspiracies and supernatural claims.

      • bigboopballs [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        It’s like they have some kind of internal inclination inside themselves already to be fascists and the tiniest push from the internet sends them into full bore Nazi

        yep, that's most liberals

      • Hohsia [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        That's why forced re-education and gulags are good (and wildly misrepresented)

  • pasta [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Amazing how the racism and insanity comes out in less than 60 seconds of speaking

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Elites in a bunker: Ok step 512 to world conquest is to get some clones to make whiny alt-rock for the transformers movies

        (also it's actually sad that Chester Bennington committed suicide and I don't mean to mock that thanks)

  • Eris235 [undecided]
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    3 years ago

    Man, sounds like a character that could be plopped into Illuminatus!.

    To think I just thought that book was wacky satire when I read it when I was younger.

  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Jacob Chansley (aka Jake Angeli aka Q Shaman) is a genuinely fascinating individual

    There is a video floating around out there where Julian Feeld (of QAnon Anonymous fame) is sitting across from Q shaman on some sort of patio while the Q Shaman just goes off about his spiritual beliefs and honestly it's a wild trip. He has a very weird synthesis of pre-Roman Christianity, Buddhism, and Norse Paganism rattling around in his skull that he's tied to Qanon with alot of red string.

    I am not sure where Julian keeps the video or if he's even put it out, I'll try to find a stream timestamp or something later.

    ALSO: He has published two books, one under the pen name "Loan Wolf"

    One Mind at a Time

    spoiler

    This book explains & exposes the history, strategy, & goals of "The Deep State" in detail. It also paints a very clear picture as to the goings-on at the highest levels of elected & un-elected power both in the US & abroad. This is the book that "The Deep State" wishes was never written, this is EVERYTHING "The Deep State" doesn't want you to know. Some may way I am putting my life at risk by publishing SO MANY paradigm-shattering FACTS. So I ask those people, what about all of the lives that are put at risk if I DON'T publish this book? This book's release to the public is for ALL of the children, women, & men who were abducted then forced into or brought up in the sex trafficking industry, this book is for all the people who were hurt, maimed or killed by "The Deep State". This book is for EVERY INJUSTICE & CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY perpetrated by "The Deep State." This book is designed to end "The Deep State" forever, by spreading the mind-blowing truth & ushering in a new age based on peace, abundance, prosperity and love.

    Will & Power

    spoiler

    What if the life of the mystic were within your reach? What if the awesome power of spirit was something that you could teach? What if the secrets of the Earth were put in your hands? What if you could control flames, winds, waters and sands? If you dare, I suggest you prepare, for within your mind, this book shall help you find, the secrets of spirituality and your own power to create reality! So with each page you turn, every mistake leaves something to learn. And for the heart so devoted, a message to decipher is encoded.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Hmmm, if that book is capable of destroying the deep state, I wonder why he's charging for it? Surely it would be better to distribute it for free? :thonk: