It's so weird watching this because there's Matt and Will and then there's just kind of a blank void between them? And sometimes they'll pause like someone else is talking, or a caller will ask a question and then no one will say anything for a long time before chiming in randomly as if they were jumping in off someone else's point, or they'll just laugh at nothing. Very weird energy from the two hosts.

this timestamp is gold too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXObKJzOWfY&t=16048s