There is no build up for war. It won't happen. No one is even thinking about doing that. Superpowers have figured out direct war against each other isn't the best way to duke it out long ago.
please make up your mind and say yes or no. i feel like we have been so inundated with weasel words that they end up weaseling into our own language. i don't feel i can take a stand on something until i am able to make a definitive statement.
the propaganda starts from childhood. how easily do you think a small child could see through something they have been told as long as they can remember?
lol, you edit often enough I can see it while I type.
What you’ve got there isn’t propaganda for public consumption; it’s specific advice given to the ruling class on China’s model, and the risk it poses. They don’t need to ‘discredit socialism’ to that audience.
If you read the document, you’ll see what they’re terrified of is China existing and thriving as a role model to other nations and oppressed people.
I am baffled as to why you think posting some random pdf from someone is supposed to prove the western bourgeoisie feels threatened by China being considered socialist.
It’s testimony before the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, given earlier this year. Which you’d know if you read the first page.
Again, if you read it and put their conclusions in the context of the USA’s recent actions, you’d also know that the USA is taking their recommendations to heart.
It explicitly says in the piece that they view a successful China as a threat, because of its prioritisation of collective wellbeing over property rights.
Read all of it. The reason I posted it wasn’t because I wanted to give whatever half-baked take the neocons have about the Party’s motivation. Rather, it’s about what the neocons fear, and what they fear is China thriving in a multilateral world, and the China Model being looked on as a role model by oppressed nations.
Fine, call it the early stages of socialist construction, if that fits your definitional sensibilities better.
What we know is that it’s seen the most significant reduction in extreme poverty ever, massive construction of public infrastructure, huge rises in living conditions, overwhelming public support, and considerable assistance to the global south, with a capacity for directing resources according to use value, and the ability to reinvent itself when necessary. We also know that it’s considered substantially different by the governing structure of the capitalist world, and that they’re terrified of it.
Regardless of whether you think that cat is black or white, it’s sure catching a lot of rats.
The USA, as a capitalist powerhouse, was a progressive force in the world for a while. Now it’s pretty clearly a global reactionary force, in both action and intent.
Maybe at some point the CPC will become a reactionary force, but that day isn’t today.
Re surplus value being extracted: that’s in-line with what Marx proposes in Critique. Surplus can still be extracted for common endeavours. Now, there’s also considerable surplus going to private hands, and some of that even ends up in endeavours not conducive to the common good, but the lion’s share ends up under the purview of the Party, for developmental purposes.
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There is no build up for war. It won't happen. No one is even thinking about doing that. Superpowers have figured out direct war against each other isn't the best way to duke it out long ago.
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So you understand there is no such thing as war preparation in this case. Because none of these are actions of war against China.
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if you keep telling people they'll never get it, why should they bother reading a word you say?
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please make up your mind and say yes or no. i feel like we have been so inundated with weasel words that they end up weaseling into our own language. i don't feel i can take a stand on something until i am able to make a definitive statement.
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so why do you say things like, "I doubt they will" that seems like some sort of hint at an opinion of the future? can you make it clear?
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how should we confront our war criminals?
through a crosshair ideally
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the propaganda starts from childhood. how easily do you think a small child could see through something they have been told as long as they can remember?
lol, you edit often enough I can see it while I type.
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actually most yanks do know this, the chuds just say it's because of all the black people, the libs say the same racist bullshit but quietly
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Take it from their own mouths.
My dude you can find plenty of sources calling China socialist with the purpose to discredit socialism. It's not a threatening idea whatsoever.
What you’ve got there isn’t propaganda for public consumption; it’s specific advice given to the ruling class on China’s model, and the risk it poses. They don’t need to ‘discredit socialism’ to that audience.
If you read the document, you’ll see what they’re terrified of is China existing and thriving as a role model to other nations and oppressed people.
I am baffled as to why you think posting some random pdf from someone is supposed to prove the western bourgeoisie feels threatened by China being considered socialist.
It’s testimony before the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, given earlier this year. Which you’d know if you read the first page.
Again, if you read it and put their conclusions in the context of the USA’s recent actions, you’d also know that the USA is taking their recommendations to heart.
I... still can't figure out how any of that supports your conclusion?
It explicitly says in the piece that they view a successful China as a threat, because of its prioritisation of collective wellbeing over property rights.
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Read all of it. The reason I posted it wasn’t because I wanted to give whatever half-baked take the neocons have about the Party’s motivation. Rather, it’s about what the neocons fear, and what they fear is China thriving in a multilateral world, and the China Model being looked on as a role model by oppressed nations.
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Fine, call it the early stages of socialist construction, if that fits your definitional sensibilities better.
What we know is that it’s seen the most significant reduction in extreme poverty ever, massive construction of public infrastructure, huge rises in living conditions, overwhelming public support, and considerable assistance to the global south, with a capacity for directing resources according to use value, and the ability to reinvent itself when necessary. We also know that it’s considered substantially different by the governing structure of the capitalist world, and that they’re terrified of it.
Regardless of whether you think that cat is black or white, it’s sure catching a lot of rats.
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Socialism isn’t utopian. It’s progressive.
The USA, as a capitalist powerhouse, was a progressive force in the world for a while. Now it’s pretty clearly a global reactionary force, in both action and intent.
Maybe at some point the CPC will become a reactionary force, but that day isn’t today.
Re surplus value being extracted: that’s in-line with what Marx proposes in Critique. Surplus can still be extracted for common endeavours. Now, there’s also considerable surplus going to private hands, and some of that even ends up in endeavours not conducive to the common good, but the lion’s share ends up under the purview of the Party, for developmental purposes.
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