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  • Qelp [they/them,she/her]
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    4 years ago

    hot take but like right wing militias in the us are probably like really ineffective. They basically only know how to shoot people who aren't a threat and are made up of mostly either old people or like actual children who took shitposting on 4chan too far. Police and military? should probably be afraid of them yeah, but like i truly believe most leftists who are up to snuff on gun stuff could probably beat right wingers 9/10 times

    • ZestyDwarf [he/him,comrade/them]
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      The reason why they are in militias is because they don't play well with others, and can't handle more than 15-20 people before their micro-ethnostates succumbs to infighting.

      Say what you will about the left and our infighting tendencies, if you can take anything away from charlottesville and the following collapse of the "alt-right" it's that larping racist gun-nuts brought up believing that they are john wayne don't tend to get shit done when they have to share space with all the other john waynes. They can't all be the lone hero, and machismo and ego really fucks them over.

      All the posturing and boogaloo shit, and it's young brainwashed kids who ends up with blood on their hands, while the militias are busy digging more bunkers.

    • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I agree, most of those militia boys are insane larpers but I still think they're super dangerous. On their own they probably couldn't do much but a domestic gladio type situation would be very bad.

      Edit: Also I think far right-wing militias can get away with being more "unorganized" because they're only going to commit terrorist acts anyway and are not really trying to build a "real movement" or anything. Just a few cells of crafty and smart militiamen could cause a disproportionate amount of damage even if most of them are losers.

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        Yeah their whole thing is preserving their privilege, so organization isn't that important. They just need to kill a few people and they've done what they want to do. Literally every far right project with a "constructive" vision devolves into infighting that makes leftist infighting look like kumbaya camp, often literally murdering each other.

        It seems like they're trying really hard to show up as a bloc now because they see masses of left wingers working together. Fighting them will have to be multi-faceted. We will need to show up unified and armed and ready to shoot back but also we are going to need comrades to do the difficult and dangerous work of infiltration and subversion. These people are paranoid as fuck and all think they're a rugged individual cowboy. Getting them to mistrust each other and turn on each other is probably one of the best methods of defanging them.

    • kacwawa [none/use name]
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      Lots of coping in the thread I see. Spain should have already been a warning, but even recently in Ukraine most of the militias were just football hooligans, former army guys, or street thugs and they all successfully coalesced into organized organizations.

      Like they even found me since I had a record in my youth for explosives and they had people in the police helping them so they could ask me if I wanted to help.

    • bimbusbumbus [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They basically only know how to shoot people who aren’t a threat

      Well, how many people are actually a threat in this country? Not many.