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  • Blurst_Of_Times [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Dude, SRA is rolling up new members like fucking Katamari, what are you talking about? Literally the main thing holding my chapter back is the onboarding team isn't big enough to handle all the new recruits.

      • PhaseFour [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I'mma be real, this post reads like it was written by someone who is not on the ground organizing, and projecting their own alienation.

        My region's PSL, SRA, and police abolition org have all been booming with membership, to the point that we are primarily training people to abroad more people.

        I get you acknowledged that in the post, but what you are describing is already happening. Go apply to any local org immediately.

        • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Damn cuts deep but I am glad to hear it. Admittedly I was in a pretty shitty mood when I wrote the original post but I like posting on here because I can get too caught up in my own thoughts. As for organizing though I did some stuff with my local BLM org during the protests in my city earlier this year which was actually very motivating but I should be more active though no doubt.

          • PhaseFour [he/him]
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            I should be more active though no doubt

            The best advice I can offer to be consistent.

            I notice that there are events which inspire a lot of people to take it to the streets, which is great. But we aren't going to win without building organizations which are revolutionary, serving the people, and capable of responding to these spontaneous events. Meals programs, political education, and so on are all necessary. But they require comrades who are willing to do boring work every week. Revolution isn't just romantic & violent.

            A lot of people imagine that, and get uninspired when reality hits.

            • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I agree and thanks for the advice! I am definitely going to look into the closest active orgs to me, I need some more offline comrades!

              • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                Great! If you have any questions, feel free to hmu. I know the Midwest activist scene pretty well, some cities more than others, if you're around there.

  • Qelp [they/them,she/her]
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    4 years ago

    hot take but like right wing militias in the us are probably like really ineffective. They basically only know how to shoot people who aren't a threat and are made up of mostly either old people or like actual children who took shitposting on 4chan too far. Police and military? should probably be afraid of them yeah, but like i truly believe most leftists who are up to snuff on gun stuff could probably beat right wingers 9/10 times

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      4 years ago

      The reason why they are in militias is because they don't play well with others, and can't handle more than 15-20 people before their micro-ethnostates succumbs to infighting.

      Say what you will about the left and our infighting tendencies, if you can take anything away from charlottesville and the following collapse of the "alt-right" it's that larping racist gun-nuts brought up believing that they are john wayne don't tend to get shit done when they have to share space with all the other john waynes. They can't all be the lone hero, and machismo and ego really fucks them over.

      All the posturing and boogaloo shit, and it's young brainwashed kids who ends up with blood on their hands, while the militias are busy digging more bunkers.

    • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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      I agree, most of those militia boys are insane larpers but I still think they're super dangerous. On their own they probably couldn't do much but a domestic gladio type situation would be very bad.

      Edit: Also I think far right-wing militias can get away with being more "unorganized" because they're only going to commit terrorist acts anyway and are not really trying to build a "real movement" or anything. Just a few cells of crafty and smart militiamen could cause a disproportionate amount of damage even if most of them are losers.

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah their whole thing is preserving their privilege, so organization isn't that important. They just need to kill a few people and they've done what they want to do. Literally every far right project with a "constructive" vision devolves into infighting that makes leftist infighting look like kumbaya camp, often literally murdering each other.

        It seems like they're trying really hard to show up as a bloc now because they see masses of left wingers working together. Fighting them will have to be multi-faceted. We will need to show up unified and armed and ready to shoot back but also we are going to need comrades to do the difficult and dangerous work of infiltration and subversion. These people are paranoid as fuck and all think they're a rugged individual cowboy. Getting them to mistrust each other and turn on each other is probably one of the best methods of defanging them.

    • kacwawa [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Lots of coping in the thread I see. Spain should have already been a warning, but even recently in Ukraine most of the militias were just football hooligans, former army guys, or street thugs and they all successfully coalesced into organized organizations.

      Like they even found me since I had a record in my youth for explosives and they had people in the police helping them so they could ask me if I wanted to help.

    • bimbusbumbus [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They basically only know how to shoot people who aren’t a threat

      Well, how many people are actually a threat in this country? Not many.

  • NoEyed [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I'm like a mix between John Wick and Christian Bale's character from Equilibrium so I should be able to make up for our collective combat deficit.

    • HKBFG [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I mean I have training with rifles, pistols, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai, gunsmithing, and I'm working on ammo crafting.

      And none of that will mean shit without an active mass movement.

  • Nationalgoatism [any]
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    4 years ago

    I keep trying to get this message out to folks. Start physically training for unconventional warfare, even if only with a few comrades is better than none. Stay in shape. Learn the basics. Just reading about fucking guerilla warfare isn't a substitution

    • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Airsoft or Milsim. It's cheap to get started, fun to do, good exercise, can learn real military tactics and lots of plausible deniability. After all your just playing with your friends.

    • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I agree but thankfully it seems like there are quite a few people out there taking initiative. I'd also bet a lot of other comrades are seeing and thinking the same thing.

  • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    If a militia poses a legitimate threat is it still a larp? I think our problem was/is that for the longest time we saw these militias as silly jokes to be dunked on or letting succs convince us we needed gun control and voting to defeat these guys. "Hurr durrr look at that guy with his penis extension lets meme about it" or "lol that guy brought a six shooter to a protest".

    Well... that "extension" has killed 4 people and now has the backing of the state. Gun control ain't do shit but disarm minorities and lull dumb liberals into a false sense of security.

    Still think this is funny?

    • cummynism [she/her,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Not to mention it was a 17 year old who legally can't even obtain the firearm. Gun control won't do anything for some kid taking/given someone elses gun.

      • kacwawa [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        17 year olds can own firearms under specific criteria and judging from his background, I wouldn't be surprised if he fulfilled them

          • kacwawa [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            There is an exception for hunting. Most states and countries have them. I had a gun at 14 because of hunting exception

  • gayhobbes [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I mean this is a doom post, actually, but I understand you don't exactly want it to come off as one. But this is 100% a doom post.

    • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I honestly disagree. I wasn't saying the situation is hopeless or we should give up or anything like that. In fact, the point of my post was the exact opposite of that. Being aware that we are in a tricky spot is not doomposting imo.

  • mayor_pete_buttigieg [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Jokes on all of you, I can make it to the Canadian border in under two hours.

    It seems to me that times are with regard to the Left and guns. I hope that they change fast enough,