And after a couple decades of conservative smears, a lot of people on the Left in the US genuinely believe that "socialism is when government does a thing", or even worse "socialism is when government spends money". So instead of reading any theory, they just redefine progressive liberalism as "socialism" because that's what their opponents called them. And even worse, they think the US is a good guy, or at least has good intentions as long as those evil QOPers aren't in power!, because "big government" is what the right wing says we are, I love the big government!
Yeah and then you have people being led astray by genuine morons like Vaush, and they think that sloganeering is a replacement for theory. Ask them what Socialism is and they'll smugly tell you it's when workers control the means of production. You ask them what the means of production are and what control would look like and you get either a blank stare or "it's when everyone's in a union"
And after a couple decades of conservative smears, a lot of people on the Left in the US genuinely believe that "socialism is when government does a thing", or even worse "socialism is when government spends money". So instead of reading any theory, they just redefine progressive liberalism as "socialism" because that's what their opponents called them. And even worse, they think the US is a good guy, or at least has good intentions as long as those evil QOPers aren't in power!, because "big government" is what the right wing says we are, I love the big government!
Yeah and then you have people being led astray by genuine morons like Vaush, and they think that sloganeering is a replacement for theory. Ask them what Socialism is and they'll smugly tell you it's when workers control the means of production. You ask them what the means of production are and what control would look like and you get either a blank stare or "it's when everyone's in a union"