prepare for intense anglo cope and for every single western article to refer to her as "American-born Eileen Gu"

  • pppp1000 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What Americans crying about this don't understand is that nearly half the American men's soccer team grew up or developed in Germany. They don't complain then.

    • machiabelly [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      It's less true now than it used to be. out of the USA's starting lineup the only ones that didn't grow up in the US and spend time in the US soccer system are Musah, Dest, and Robinson. Everyone else did at least all of their developement before 16 in the US. the () is the age they left the USA for europe

      Pulisic (16) ---- sargent(18) ------ Reyna(16)

      McKennie (18) -- Adams (19) --- Musah(got born in new york for no reason lmao)

      Robinson(Dad is US dual national) ---- Richards (16) -- Zimmerman (Entire career) ---- Dest(Dad is a US dual national)

      The US gets a lot of dual nationals to commit to them because everyone is nice and fun and has good vibes. Our players are super welcoming and happy to invite people into the squad. Head coach is generally a chill guy who cares about his players.

      • pppp1000 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Dest never lived in the US. Also, how is Eileen's situation different from those players you mentioned. Since 15, she's taken action to representing China.

        • machiabelly [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          ? Of course he didnt, he grew up in the netherlands. His only connection is his dual national father.

          Its not different at all, they all thought representing a different country than the one they were raised/developed in was a better opportunity.

          Are we arguing? Did you miss the "didn't"?

          • pppp1000 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            My point was against the "she is good because she trained in the US" comments. Most of those players are where they are now because they moved to Europe to train in the big leagues. You're not a developed soccer player while playing for u16.

            • machiabelly [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              I think my starting lineup was unclear. I don't mean u16 teams I mean they spend their time under the age of 16 in the USA. Every one of those players, besides Richards, was getting playing time within a year of moving to Europe. I edited it to make it more clear. And yeah, you can't be a world class footballer without playing with the best players and coaches under the biggest pressure. Trying to get the best opportunities you can to be a better athlete doesn't have any bearing on what country you should represent, just like in the case of Gu.

    • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Well, you see America is....a uh immigrant country so it's okay when the US does it.

        • Vncredleader
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          3 years ago

          This is a great case of how the melting pot is meant to remove and disperse cultural ties. Chinese heritage is treated like a sin, and when it is embraced in turn it is treated as traitorous and also meaningless cause suddenly being born somewhere is all that matters if it is the US and not Asia

    • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Bruh. They just recruit a Dutch player that never live in the US, only play a few youth games there