How should America be broken up in your opinion?

  • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
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    3 years ago

    From what I understand, it would be a far more efficient and ecologically safe way to ship goods around the world vs cargo ships so would be a big step up as far as that is concerned. It would also probably make passenger travel around the world safer and cheaper than through airlines.

    As far as spread of disease, I think that comes down to policy and enforcement more than mode of travel, since disease can spread just as quickly otherwise without proper precautions.

    • rebrone [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      What you need to consider is that we SHOULDNT be shipping goods around the world, if a central committee had control of all industry treat production would halt immediately, economies would be forced to downscale and localize, there would be no need to transport treats across the globe.

      • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
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        3 years ago

        What about food, medical supplies, building materials, batteries/solar panels, vaccines, computers, etc.? It’s not just treats that get shipped around the world, after all. I’m all in favor of localizing whatever is possible to localize (especially food), but I also don’t think completely rolling back globalization is realistic at this point without making things worse than they already are. Efficient global and local economic planning (which would include more efficient means of shipping goods) I think would be important for managing limited resources under climate change in a way that provides the best possible benefit for everyone.

        • rebrone [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Your concerns about food, medical supplies, building materials, batteries/solar panels, vaccines, computers, etc are entirely misplaced. Food is the quintessential product that should be produced locally, it could be produced more efficiently in an urban setting, the only reason food is shipped globally is capitalism made self sufficiency not profitable. Medical supplies require educated people more than it does resources, preventive care would reduce the need for many medicines, again can be produced locally in dense urban areas. Building materials is a funny one, we should be building to last forever, eventually we will reach a point where earth won't build another skyscraper because we won't need one. For lithium, that shit is less renewable than nuclear, not an actual solution for most places. Vaccines productions would fall under medicine. And computers, we use too much of them, they are not personal property. They should be owned communally, we should phase out the smart phone and personal computer, only a small select group of educated people should have access to the internet, the internet as we know it is bad and should be destroyed, instant communication is good but the state should have a monopoly on it, it should restrict it's use way more than China is currently doing, stop the spread of conspiracies and bad ideas for a start. It should be more a tool than an entertainment.

          Efficient global planning would be a fleet of nuclear cargo ships that delivers much less cargo than ships currently deliver now, only the most essential things should be transported across the ocean. And what about planes? Even I think with a drastically reduced economy having a few of them would be good. Sometimes people or things do need to be on the other side of the earth, we must determine what thought. If there's anything you should take from this, it's that even if we had full control over the economy, we would have to scale back a lot of things you consider essential because they are just treats. The way we live now is unsustainable, we can guarantee food, shelter, and medicine for everyone but anything beyond the essential should be stopped, maybe we should just drug everyone who's unhappy about losing their treats?

          • riley
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            1 year ago

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            • rebrone [none/use name]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              Urban farming can be done on an industrial scale, just look at the Netherlands, and if we wanted to feed double the amount of people on this planet urban farming would be the only practical solution. And it wouldn't just be algae soylent green nutraloafs to eat, it would be a vegan diet that doesn't taste like literal shut. The less amount of time food spends in transit is less energy wasted.

              Large tracts of land need to go back to nature, we need less farms, less industry, we need to persevere the environment since we rely on its existence for our existence. We need a mass exodus of the rural areas to the urban cores, people living in the densest spaces possible, it would solve most logistical issues and it would get people out of the way of climate change. We can't save every city from rising sea levels, water scarcity, etc, the best we can do is cut our losses and try to get people out of the danger.

              Also I'm not an anprim or an ecofash. I'm not against technological development, I'm against private property first and foremost. Computers are a problem, people shouldn't own them in the same way you shouldn't own a car or a house. It should all be public property, not personal. We need more public computer labs, shared computers in residential buildings, computer kiosks on the street, government mandated smartphones that not everyone should have. Social media as it currently exists needs to die, our addiction to personal computers need to be checked not because I'm some anti technology ghoul but we aren't using them right.